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Re: 1851 England Census - John LYNESS
« Reply #9 on: Monday 06 January 14 21:25 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear. I may have led you up the garden path - perhaps Pollock St was not yet built in 1851?

The writing in the baptism register is such a scrawl, but I have trawled through several pages in which the mystery address appears for numerous baptisms.

I now think it might be Tatlock St.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: 1851 England Census - John LYNESS
« Reply #10 on: Monday 06 January 14 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Pollock Street is West Derby district not Liverpool.

Will now look for Tatlock Street  ;)
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Re: 1851 England Census - John LYNESS
« Reply #11 on: Monday 06 January 14 21:44 GMT (UK) »
I now think it might be Tatlock St.
No worries avm228,

I'm happy for any and all suggestions. The interesting thing about Tatlock Street is that is was very close to Raymond Street. So...

I'll be back after a seach...  ;)
ABBOTT - St. Helens area & Blackrod, LAN
BAINES - Haydock, LAN
BLACK - Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER - Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL - Germany
FORSHAW - Haydock, LAN
HARRISON - Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
IRONMONGER - BDF
JACKSON - Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
KELLY - Dun Laoghaire
LONGBOTTAM, NAYLOR, NICHOLSON & PARKINSON - LAN
MADDOCKS - WLS, CHS & LAN
MOORE - IRL & LAN
ROSCOE - Sutton/Prescot, LAN
TITTLE & TOLLETT - CHS & LAN

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Re: 1851 England Census - John LYNESS
« Reply #12 on: Monday 06 January 14 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Pollock Street is West Derby district not Liverpool.

Will now look for Tatlock Street  ;)
Cheers Heywood,

I think Tatlock is looking like a much more likely candidate (and that writing in the register was basically a scrawl. Points to anyone who can make anything at all out of it - lol).

Rowan Tree  :)
ABBOTT - St. Helens area & Blackrod, LAN
BAINES - Haydock, LAN
BLACK - Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER - Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL - Germany
FORSHAW - Haydock, LAN
HARRISON - Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
IRONMONGER - BDF
JACKSON - Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
KELLY - Dun Laoghaire
LONGBOTTAM, NAYLOR, NICHOLSON & PARKINSON - LAN
MADDOCKS - WLS, CHS & LAN
MOORE - IRL & LAN
ROSCOE - Sutton/Prescot, LAN
TITTLE & TOLLETT - CHS & LAN


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Re: 1851 England Census - John LYNESS
« Reply #13 on: Monday 06 January 14 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Hah-Ha! I think I've found them at 18 Tatlock Street.

Transcribed as follows;

John Simes - 39 (1812) - Ireland - Sugar Baker
Piece: 2177
Folio: 546
Page Number: 7


I couldn't have found them without all your help. Cheers everyone.

Chuffed, Rowan Tree  :D
ABBOTT - St. Helens area & Blackrod, LAN
BAINES - Haydock, LAN
BLACK - Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER - Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL - Germany
FORSHAW - Haydock, LAN
HARRISON - Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
IRONMONGER - BDF
JACKSON - Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
KELLY - Dun Laoghaire
LONGBOTTAM, NAYLOR, NICHOLSON & PARKINSON - LAN
MADDOCKS - WLS, CHS & LAN
MOORE - IRL & LAN
ROSCOE - Sutton/Prescot, LAN
TITTLE & TOLLETT - CHS & LAN

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Re: COMPLETED: 1851 England Census - John LYNESS
« Reply #14 on: Monday 06 January 14 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Well done  :D

It's great that you found them yourself too!! Much more exciting.
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Re: COMPLETED: 1851 England Census - John LYNESS
« Reply #15 on: Monday 06 January 14 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Well done  :D

It's great that you found them yourself too!! Much more exciting.
lol - thanks  :D
ABBOTT - St. Helens area & Blackrod, LAN
BAINES - Haydock, LAN
BLACK - Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER - Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL - Germany
FORSHAW - Haydock, LAN
HARRISON - Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
IRONMONGER - BDF
JACKSON - Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
KELLY - Dun Laoghaire
LONGBOTTAM, NAYLOR, NICHOLSON & PARKINSON - LAN
MADDOCKS - WLS, CHS & LAN
MOORE - IRL & LAN
ROSCOE - Sutton/Prescot, LAN
TITTLE & TOLLETT - CHS & LAN

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Re: COMPLETED: 1851 England Census - John LYNESS
« Reply #16 on: Monday 06 January 14 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Brilliant news - well found :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: COMPLETED: 1851 England Census - John LYNESS
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 07 January 14 14:09 GMT (UK) »
I have John on my database as Linus (1861) and also as Simes (1851), but would never have considered them to be the same person.

Having read this topic, I’ve now studied the 1851 enumerator’s writing (on cd) and feel that it may well say Linus. If you look at the entry for the first of the lodgers, Edward King, there is almost no difference between the S of Simes and the L of Lodger, and there are similar examples on adjoining pages.

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