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Re: SCHYTZE/SCHULZE Ladies Australian Story so far.
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 January 14 08:29 GMT (UK) »
For rootschatters further afield.

Tenterfield is not so far from Stanthorpe just further down the range and of course across the border into NSW.

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Re: Completed with Thanks - SCHYTZE/SCHULZE Ladies Australian Story so far.
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 27 July 14 12:43 BST (UK) »
I note you have Louisa marrying Frederick Ewen Whitwell, I'm interested if you have confirmation of marriage for Frederick as it appears he married one month after his first wife died of TB in Sydney. We have year of birth for him as 1876. We have him married to Louisa White & am interested to know age of Louisa at time of this marriage. Any info would be useful.
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 31 July 14 03:18 BST (UK) »
Hello Ginielewis,
Have a record of Marriage from "Australia Marriage Index 1788-1950 about Frederick Ewen Whitwell"
married Louisa Matilda White 27 Apr 1933 Reg Place Queensland year 1933 Reg No. B015469  Page no.2777,
Louisa Matilda was born c1880 Baptised as Matilda Louisa SCHYTZE 15 Aug 1880 Bryanston Square St Mary.
So Louisa would have been about 53 when they were married.
Hope this helps to clarify things,  they have been a very confusing family to track so far, so anything you can share would be great.
HeatherR.

Lanarkshire=Robertson-Ross-Russell-Neilson.
Staffordshire= Harrison-Jackson-Round
London=Poswillo-Hyams-Karby-Dossett-Baram-Detloff-Hyman
Gibralter=Poswillo
Dorset= Attwooll-Read-Northover
Australia=Karby-Meyer

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Re: Completed with Thanks - SCHYTZE/SCHULZE Ladies Australian Story so far.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 04 August 14 07:59 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Frederick Ewen Whitwell was jailed for 2 years for GBH when he was approx 20. He fought in the Boxer Rebellion and in WWI. He was shot in the side of the head in WWI which we think contributed to his nasty character. He had 3 children from his first marriage and he abandoned his family at the beginning of the depression. One daughter died in her early 20's from TB. His wife and her father also died of TB in 1933 leaving one daughter who was in her late teens (sent to a TB convalescence home in western Sydney) and a 5 year old boy who was adopted by his mothers half sister. That 5 year old boy was my husbands father. The surviving daughter refused to talk about her father, her only reference was that he was a bad man & not worth another thought. Unfortunately my husbands father died at 50 and didn't pass any info to his children, he may not have remembered his father anyway. Your info has helped clarify that there wouldn't have been any children from his second marriage due to her age. We were wondering if there could have been extended family out there.
I hope this gives you a little more info for your family.
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 06 August 14 03:36 BST (UK) »
Hello Genielewis,
Thank you for that, seems he was not a very nice man at all.  As he married Louisa so soon after his wife's death and her husband had died in 1929 maybe they were already together by then ???  and just made it legal. Will check the Electoral Registers next time at Library and see what turns up.
Hope you don't already have this info but will post it anyway.
Frederick was killed by a train Thursday June 14 1940  at Oxley, Brisbane,  He was deaf and didn't hear it coming apparantly.
There is a Newspaper report-Bathurst Daily Argus 11 May 1909 headed "The Peculiar Whitwell...  Breaks Things With a Pistol".    so it appears he was bad tempered before his injury in WW1.
There is also a report of that court case in the Sydney Morning Herald 12 may 1909 entitled "A Variety of Charges",  but the quality is not good enough to post here.
If you go to.....    http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper  and type in his full name the articles will come up. (Hope the link works) there are a few other arrticles there as well. 
HeatherR

Lanarkshire=Robertson-Ross-Russell-Neilson.
Staffordshire= Harrison-Jackson-Round
London=Poswillo-Hyams-Karby-Dossett-Baram-Detloff-Hyman
Gibralter=Poswillo
Dorset= Attwooll-Read-Northover
Australia=Karby-Meyer