Help needed with Wintle family records please.

[Mum2randa]

Hi all, I`m currently researching my late Uncles family - Wintle. I thought I was doing really well and got back to George Wintle born 1758 and a Silversmith (with some interesting history). However, on checking through some of the documentation, I`ve come across an issue further down the line and can`t seem to resolve it. So, here goes.

Frederick Holmes Wintle born 15/3/1855 Baptised. 9/9/1855 City of London (St Giles without Cripplegate).
Record on Ancestry shows parents as Frederick Holmes Wintle - born 12/02/1829 (innacurate transcription shows Hohmes) & Eliza Jane Wintle (nee Turner from my records.) Eliza Jane is shown as Jane Eliza on marriage record.

Subsequently Frederick (b.15/3/1855) married his first wife - Mary Jane Rawlings in January 1882. The record on Ancestry shows his Fathers name as Frederick Eugene Wintle - Silversmith

This is the fly in the ointment as I have checked and can find no reference/record of a Frederick Eugene Wintle anywhere! The problem is that the name Eugene casts doubts on the rest of the tree being correct, but, unless I can find a Frederick Eugene, particulary one that is a Silversmith, I cannot be certain of the accuracy of the tree.

I think my question is that, is it possible the Registrar made a mistake and recorded Frederick senior as Frederick Eugene? Also possible that Fred senior changed his middle name for some reason? Or, is there a real Frederick Eugene out there? If so, it will change the whole upper branches of the tree....Aaagghhh!
Any help would be very gratefully received, as this is really causing me some grief right now!!

[aghadowey]

Subsequently Frederick (b.15/3/1855) married his first wife - Mary Jane Rawlings in January 1882. The record on Ancestry shows his Fathers name as Frederick Eugene Wintle - Silversmith
Are you using details on Ancestry as the sole basis of your research into this family? Family trees there can be notoriously inaccurate (many threads here on RC about this problem (and transcriptions of records themselves often leave much to be desired. You'd need to check the original source if possible to see if 'Eugene' in the name is a mistake or is actually in the register.

[Mum2randa]

Many thanks for the swift response. I tend not to use the family trees for information on Ancestry for precisely the reason you have given. However, I do use Ancestry to find the actual records. In this case the "London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 record for Frederick Holmes Wintle" shows the register for his marriage to Mary Jane Rawlings. This record shows his Fathers name as Frederick Eugene Wintle - not Frederick Holmes Wintle as I believe it to be. Hence my puzzlement.
All the records I mention are the actual documents available on Ancestry.
I also use Family Search for information and can`t find any trace of Frederick Eugene Wintle on there either.

When you say the "original source" do you mean sending off for the marriage certificate?

[stanmapstone]

The register was filled in by the assistant curate from the information given to him by the couple, they would see what he had written when they signed the register, so apparently agreed with Frederick Eugene Wintle .

Stan

[stanmapstone]

I think it more likely that the entry in the baptism register could be wrong.

Stan

[jim1]

Looking at the 2 signatures from the 1882 & 1907 marriages they appear to be the same.
He names his father with the middle name Holmes in 1907.

[Mum2randa]

Many thanks everyone....Jim1, the two signatures do look very similar, one or two slight differences, but who`s writing didn`t change after 19 years or so. As you say, he cites his Father as being Frederick Holmes in the 1907 marriage. The only mention of Eugene I can find is in the record of the first marriage, so, I am still puzzled as to why, but I am inclined to think that Frederick Holmes Wintle is Dad`s correct name.