Married as a Spinster twice - How? my theory

[meggles]

Joy Murrin transcriptions - could not speak higher of their service, I have very little patience when it comes to waiting on a transcription and I do the express services which is between 1-3 days for email delivery.
I have only go the transcriptions so can not compare signatures - but from the information on the transcriptions in regards to George  - it is all the same.  I don't think that it would be possible for someone else to pretend to be George, Berry is a small town and everyone knows everyone and also Georges father was a very well known resident in Berry, my Jessie probably went to school with George but if not they would of known each other.

[majm]

Please provide names of clergy and the denomination/s

JM

[meggles]

George and Minnie were married at the Methodist Parsonage, Forest Lodge by J.W.Collier -
Witnesses for this wedding were Bertram Collier and Elzth Collier  - so looks like no relatives at this wedding.
George and Jessie were married at St Lukes Anglican in Berry - witnesses were Henry Reuben Chamberlin (Jessie's brother) and Jack Mathers - her nephew (who was the same age as her)
but there is also a newspaper clipping about the wedding - the bestman was J.Mathers (her nephew) and the bridesmaid was Miss Charlotte Mathers (her niece) .

[cupoflife]

Not sure if this has any bearing on your search:
NSW Birth: 16392/1907 Hilda M CHAMBERLAIN; Father --   ; Mother Jessie M; Newtown
NSW Death: 7381/1907 Hilda M CHAMBERLAIN; Father --   ; Mother Jessie M; Sydney

cheers
cupoflife

[wivenhoe]

BDM NSW birth
20263 / 1878  CROFT Minnie  parents   Charles / Elizabeth                Patricks Plain

BDM NSW death
14671 / 1942 DAVIS Minnie parents     Charles / Elizabeth                 Sydney

BDM NSW marriage
648 / 1932  DAVIS Norman    m.  LUSTER Sylvia                                 Redfern


SMH 21 Jul 1944
DAVIS -A tribute of love to the beautiful   memory of my dear wife and our loving mother Minnie who passed silently and peace fully away July 21 1942 Always remembered by her loving husband and family. 

DAVIS -In loving memory of Minnie Davis who passed away July 21 1942. Inserted by her son Norman daughter-in-law Sylvia and grandchild Lionel.

DAVIS -A silent thought brings many a tear for the one I lost, a loving mother who fell asleep July 21 1942. Inserted by her daughter Ruby.

SMH 23 Jul 1942
DAVIS.-July 21, 1942, at St. Vincent's Hospital, Minnie Davis, beloved wife of George and loving mother of Ruby, Harry, Reg, Norman, Cecil, and Roy, aged 61 years.

DAVIS -The Relatives and Friends of Mr GEORGE DAVIS and FAMILY, of 7 Lone Pine Parade, Matraville are invited to attend the Funeral of his beloved WIFE and their dear MOTHER, Minnie....Catholic Cemetery Rookwood.

Catholic Cemetery Rookwood

DAVIS George Henry    5 Sep 1944  66yrs SEC*M2*15**2675
DAVIS  Minnie            23  Jul 1942   61yrs  SEC*M2*15**2675

BDM NSW death
20723 / 1944 DAVIS George Henry  parents  George / Mary Ann              Rozelle

[meggles]

Thank you everyone for the information on George Henry Davis and one of his families.  I have started to try and contact grandchildren down his line from this first marriage and hopefully someone will have some more info.  I will continue to search to see if I can find any information on when Jessie found out about George already being married  - but maybe it will be a question that will go unanswered.
cheers
Meggles

[majm]

Hi there,

May I please ask for you to go back through your thread, when you have the time, and check for some unanswered questions.   I am not yet convinced you have found a chap marrying two different lasses in NSW in 1907.   

May I please learn of the name of the clergyman at St Lukes as noted on the 1907 marriage for your lass.

There are not many instances where I would actually consider purchasing the real deal cert instead of an official transcription, however, I encourage you to consider purchasing the real deal certs for both the 1907 marriages OR for you to spend the time to find the original registers and make photos of the signatures of the groom, and then give RChatters on the Decipher board the opportunity to consider IF the same person signed each time.   

May I please pop some doubt about please.    I realise that 1903 is possibly a tad too early to give good info about 1907, however, for the record I am providing info from the Dec 1903 electoral roll for Berry.  It was NOT yet compulsory to enrol. 

NSW ER 1903 ILLAWARRA polling at Berry
Charles Edward CHAMBERLAIN of Berry, butcher
Charlotte CHAMBERLAIN of Berry, domestic duties
Richard CHAMBERLAIN of Berry, labourer
Richard CHAMBERLAIN of Jasper’s Brush, labourer
George Henry DAVIS, of Berry, fettler
May DAVIS, of Berry, domestic duties
William DAVIS of Berry, labourer

I have only go the transcriptions so can not compare signatures - but from the information on the transcriptions in regards to George  - it is all the same.  I don't think that it would be possible for someone else to pretend to be George, Berry is a small town and everyone knows everyone and also Georges father was a very well known resident in Berry, my Jessie probably went to school with George but if not they would of known each other.

May I add to the list of questions 

On either of those 1907 marriages certs, are any of the parents of the bride or groom noted as deceased?

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

NSW ER 1903 DALLEY polling at Forest Lodge
Charles, senior CROFT. 247 Bridge Road, ironmonger
Charles, junior CROFT, 247 Bridge Road, book-keeper
Minnie CROFT, 247 Bridge Street, domestic duties

NSW 1901 HOUSEHOLDERS Census  (transcribed by me from the image, apologies for any typos)
247 Bridge Road, Glebe Chas CROFT, 2 Males, 7 females
P A St, Berry (Prince Alfred St ?? ?? ?? ??) George H DAVIS, 2 males 3 females

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/114352217   Shoalhaven News  9 Nov 1907

"The marriage of Mr Geo. Davis (Sydney) with Jessie Chamberlain, youngest daughter of Mr R. Chamberlain (Berry) was celebrated at the Church of England, Berry. Mr J. Mathers was best man and -Miss C. Mathers bridesmaid."

May I ask you to carefully check the two 1907 transcriptions please.   Particularly for the usual address for the GROOM.   From the above newspaper cutting chap who married Jessie does NOT seem to be a local son of a chap from Berry.

Cheers,  JM