Here are my comments based on a NSW BDM certificate for a birth in 1910 in Ultimo (Sydney) NSW. As the male person is STILL living, and as I respect the right of NSW residents to their lawful expectation to privacy, I do NOT include identifiying information. This is from a real deal certificate, it is HANDWRITTEN and an image from the REGISTER held at the NSW BDM. The cert is on my lap in front of me at this minute. There are several different hands showing on the certificate. There’s the NSW BDM clerk, and there’s the Deputy Registrar, and there’s the handwriting of the baby’s mother. I well recognise HER signature. I have many examples of her hand. I have good memories of lots of conversations with her.
I can clearly read each of the separate columns
1. the local registrar’s line number. (this is NOT the NSW BDM reference no.)
2. full date of birth (day, month, year, then day of week)
3. address where baby was born (name of the house, house number, street address, (no city/town/suburb/village/locality mentioned) and followed by the words “not present’
4. Male
5. Father’s full name (all his given names, followed by his surname), his then occupation, his then age, and his place of birth. (place of birth is not as detailed, it just gives the street in Sydney where he was born and NOT the house name/number.)
6. Then the date of the marriage (full date, but not day of week), and the place (on this document it reads “Sydney” ) and Previous issue (of the marriage) … it shows the names and ages of the older siblings still alive at that time. These are listed in chronological order. It then continues and shows the number of male siblings followed by the number of female siblings already deceased
7. Mother’s names and maiden surname, and her age and her birthplace. Like the baby’s father, this mum was also born in Sydney.
8. The next column is for the INFORMANT, and in my instance, this section has the informant’s SIGNATURE, and relationship and address. So, I can clearly see the signature of the MOTHER and that her address is exactly the same as that given for the place of birth.
9. Then there’s the column for WITNESS and there’s provision for three witnesses. Names are provided for witness (2) and (3). Witness (1) has NOT any entry next to it. Witnesses (2) and (3) were females (listed as Mrs ………) and IF I recall correctly, my earlier research showed these to be locals, one a midwife.
10. The next column is the admin column for the formal certification, ie the deputy registrar’s signature, the date, the location etc.
11. Then there is the next column where the Registrar can add a name to his register (In my instance this is blank).
So there’s a great deal of IDENTIFYING information available on NSW BDM birth certs, and this is one of the reasons that these records are on restricted access for the first one ***
HUNDRED years. I am concerned about the depth of information displayed in the Original Post, I have asked but our OP has not removed the name of the person born 1911.
I am quite sure that at Rchat we ought not to name persons whom we cannot confirm are already deceased. Clearly someone born in 1911 may well be deceased, BUT WHAT IF THEY ARE NOT…. Surely we ought to be careful in what information we provide about anyone who may well be alive. What if the baby born 1911 is NOT the elusive son of Meggles Jessie….. What if there were two separate chaps, one married to Minnie in 1907 and one married to Jessie in 1907. What if the chap deserted Jessie and fled NSW, or fled Australia, and so perhaps died interstate or in a different country. What if he enlisted in a different country and went off to be Killed in Action during The Great War.
May I please ask for the removal of the NAME of the baby born 1911. To the best of my knowledge I am NOT related to any person named in this thread, but I am related to a chap born in 1910 who does follow my threads, and he is quite distressed to read that there are people interested in family history who do not respect the privacy of the living.
Once I have posted this thread, I will of course immediately report myself to a moderator. I can see that the OP is again online.
Cheers, JM *** EDIT to add
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noting that at least one chap born in 1910 has read this thread carefully and noticed JM left out a very important word.
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