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Henry's Death Date
« on: Friday 31 January 14 11:30 GMT (UK) »
Please can someone help me with the death of Henry Mason believed to have died in Sorell, Tasmania, he was born around 1825 where unknown, don't know if he arrived as a convict or born in Tassie.

I have found no marriage date for him but I am led to believe he was in a partnership with Emeline Wiggins and the unison produced at least 5 children, the younger ones being sent to the New Town orphanage after the early death if their mother.

I would appreciate anything that may shed some light.

Thank You.

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Re: Henry's Death Date
« Reply #1 on: Friday 31 January 14 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Tasportal has his death as 1896 at Sorell.  Tasportal is a good start in looking for information but not always reliable, and not necessarily comprehensive.  There are a number of men with the same name listed but this is the one who seems to fit best.

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=375801

From the same site:
Emeline WIGGINS
Marriage/Relationship:   1866 - SORELL,Tasmania (Henry MASON )
Children:   
375990   MASON MARY JANE   1866
376004   MASON NANCY   1868
375870   MASON JOHN   1869
375981   MASON MARY ANN   1872
375920   MASON M   1873

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Re: Henry's Death Date
« Reply #2 on: Friday 31 January 14 11:52 GMT (UK) »
DOUGLAS, Henry
DOUGLAS, Ida
DOUGLAS, Susan
DOUGLAS, Thomas

Mother for the above children is Emmaline Wiggins and father noted as Charles Douglas
Dated 1 Sept 1864

http://www.orphanschool.org.au/listorphansmother.php

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Re: Henry's Death Date
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 January 14 11:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Giblet, Emmaline did marry Charles Douglas but I have never found a place of death for him......any help there? thank you for the extra children for them also I only had Susan.

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Re: Henry's Death Date
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 January 14 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Australian Death Index has this:
Tasmania, 1896, Reg No 707
Henry MASON, 71,
Died: 8 Sep 1896
Registration Place:   Port Sorell, Tasmania
Registration Number:   707
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1825

If the children found by Giblet are from the same mother, did she leave them in the orphanage then go on to have the children with Henry MASON  ???

Edit to add: I note that they were not admitted to the orphanage in 1864, but seem to have been granted an allowance.

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Re: Henry's Death Date
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 January 14 12:08 GMT (UK) »
From the Tasmanian TPI

Henry Mason died 8/9/1896 registered at Sorell (not Port Sorell ) aged 71.
RDG 707/1896

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JOHN- Pembrokeshire Wales.  FREEMAN -England?
MEDLICOT -Monmouthshire Wales.
ISAAC -Gloucestershire and Liverpool.[Toxteth Park] SNOW- England .Convict. FRAZER- England.Convict.
DEAL -Ireland .Convict.
KEMP -Saint Mary Cray Kent.Eynsford Wilmington England.Convict.
BLACKBERRY -Whitechapel .Convict. CONDON -alias
DUFFY-Brighton England. Convict.
BANTICK -Ixworth Sussex England. Convict.
JONES England????[George]Convict.
ROSE-England. Convict.
All came to Tas

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Re: Henry's Death Date
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 January 14 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Is this Emeline's death?

Tasmania, 1873, reg no 530
Emeline DOUGLAS, 36
Died: 6 Aug 1873
Registered: Port Sorell, Tasmania
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1837

Emeline and Charles DOUGLAS were married in 1864
Tasmania 1864, reg no 663
Emmeline WIGGINS, Charles DOUGLAS
Marriage Date:   25 Jul 1864
Registration Place:   Port Sorell, Tasmania

Emmeline was born 24 Jan 1837
Parents: Thomas Wiggins, Susannah Wiggins
Birth Place:   Tasmania

There are a number of death records for Charles DOUGLAS but no way of knowing which is the right one.

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Re: Henry's Death Date
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 January 14 12:17 GMT (UK) »
I'm totally confused now Judith,  Emmaline died in Sorell 1873, the children to Henry Mason were born between 1866-1873, the youngest being born of that year....Emmaline passing August 6, due to complications of the birth of last child whom also died....August 2.

Now I have a date of marriage to Charles Douglas 1864, Susan their child was born 1858 at Longford, Tasmania, so the question is where do the other children fit in? well I have no idea, I think I will retire for the night and sleep on it if this problem will allow me to sleep.

Thank you for everything.

Ceinna

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Re: Henry's Death Date
« Reply #8 on: Friday 31 January 14 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Hmm

It sure is confusing as Tasportal shows only these two girls as being children of Emmeline and Charles, both girls born i n Longford:

99301   DOUGLAS MARY ANN SUSANAH   1858
99302   DOUGLAS SUSAN   1858

The name Susan fits with one of the children on the orphanage list, but no sign of Mary Ann Susanah.

Seems to me that possibly Emmeline and Charles did not formalise their relationship by marrying until some years after the children were born.  Unfortunately the orphanage record doesn't give the ages of the children.

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DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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