Grieves family from Dudley Northumberland

[Tantevin]

Trying to find relations to Robert Grieves b.1816 married to Ann b.1822 (with added words beside her name ,W Brunton),where I think she may have been born. Wondering what her surname was and families to their three sons John b.1841,James b.1846 and Robert b.1852. Margaret D b.1845 was my great grandmother and married Robert Oliver.b.1845. Info.  on anything and any member of this family is of interest to me.Robert ,farther,was overman in colliery in N Shields  ,son John  was deputy overman and James employed in colliery ,aged 14. Perhaps all in Dudley Colliery,living in 4 Office Row , Dudley in 1861.

[t mo]

hi and welcome to rootschat .
if you get the birth cert for Margaret [ your gt grandmother ] it will give you anns maiden name .
and if you are looking to follow the 3 sons lives have you tried looking both at censuses and at marriages or don,t you have access to these records ?
regards
trevor

[KGarrad]

Where does Margaret D fit in?!

The parents fit in this 1851 census, but th children are not quite right?

Class: HO107; Piece: 2384; Folio: 562; Page: 10
Trimdon, Durham

Grieves, Robert   Head  M  33  Coal Miner  b North Shields, Northumberland
Grieves, Ann  Wife  F  29  b Painsher, Durham
Grieves, John  Son  M  7  Scholar  b Trimdon
Grieves, Sarah  Daughter  F  5  b Trimdon
Grieves, Robert  Son  M  2  b Trimdon
Grieves, Joseph  Son  M  8 months  b Trimdon

[Tantevin]

This is`nt the same Grieves Family that is why Margaret is not mentioned

[JenB]

1851 Census

HO 107 / 2412 / 511 / 65
Stone Row, Cramlington

Robert Greves, head, mar, 34, Deputy Overman Coal Mine, Northumberland Shields
Ann do, wife, mar, 29, do Kenton
John do, son, 10, scholar, do Cramlington
Margaret do, daur, 6, scholar, do do
James do, son, 4, do do

[JenB]

There is a possible marriage in 1840 showing up on the North Tyneside Registrar's site:
Robert Grieves married Ann Brown.

To be certain you need to follow Trevor's suggestion and get the birth certificate of one of their children.

[JenB]

1841 census

HO 107 / 824 / Book 1 / f. 10 / p. 14

Cramlington Low Colliery

Robert Grieves, 25, Coal miner, Y
Ann do, 20, Y
John do, 1, Y

Possible birth registration of John:
4th q. 1840, Tynemouth 25, 385

[trish1120]

Does this have a Australian connection?
If not someone has a very mixed up Tree on Anc.
They have Ann Grieves as dying in Victoria, name Mary Ann Grieves nee WILSON;
Name:    Mary Grieves
Death Place:    Rheola, Victoria
Age:    76
Father's Name:    Wilson
Mother's Name:    Betesy Laidlaw
Registration Year:    1898
Registration Place:    Victoria
Registration Number:    9394
Estimated Birth Year:    abt 1822

Last Census they have for Robert/Ann and Family is the 1871

This is incorrect as the Ann Grieves Married to Robert is still in England and Widowed 1881/1891
1881 she is under Ann GREAVES born c 1822, Brunton, Northumberland.
She has a Grieves Neice with her.

FreeBMD has a couple possible Marriages in 1840 for Robert with Anns on the page;
June 1840 Tynemouth  (Ann BROWN)
Sept 1840 Newcastle (Ann SMITH). This one has only 7 names on the page so 1 female is missing.

So the Birth Cert of Margaret is really necessary if you want to trace back with this Family.

With 2 Robert/Ann Grieves around with Children of a similar age it is somewhat confusing.

Trish

[JenB]

FreeBMD has a couple possible Marriages in 1840 for Robert with Anns on the page;
June 1840 Tynemouth  (Ann BROWN)
Sept 1840 Newcastle (Ann SMITH). This one has only 7 names on the page so 1 female is missing.

The Tynemouth marriage is the one I mentioned in reply #5

The Newcastle marriage is between Robert Grieves and Mary Wilson ( per Newcastle Registrar's site)