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Offline Berni

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Help needed with Great Aunt Norah
« on: Saturday 22 February 14 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I really need your thoughts on what I think I  know about my great aunt.
Norah Winifred Dempsey was born in 4th qtr 1903, in Cardiff. Youngest child of William and Emma nee Morgan. The family are living in Seymour street, Cardiff in 1911 (gr grandfather lived at the same address until his death in 1942.)
I have a possible  marriage for Norah to Benjamin H Townsend, in 4th qtr 1930 Fylde Lancashire. 8e 1261. Given that Norah's family lived close to and worked at the docks in Cardiff, it's plausible that she met Benjamin in that way, given Fylde is also on the West coast.  I have 2 possible births connected to the marriage, 2 daughters born 1930/ 40's in South Shields. Norah's sister was married and living in South Shields.
I don't know where Benjamin was born so don't know how to look for a birth for him. Do I treat the 2 births as highly probable, until budget allows to purchase any certs.
I look forward to any thoughts or suggestions you may have, no matter how trivial. Many thanks for taking the time to read this
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Dempsey. Bute dock police. Cardiff, Glamorganshire.
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Re: Help needed with Great Aunt Norah
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 February 14 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Found this death:

March qtr 1956
South Shields district    vol 1a, page 1021

Townsend, Benjamin H      age 65


That puts his birth about 1891?

So maybe this birth?

June qtr 1890
Ashton district    vol 8d, page 550

Townsend, Benjamin Hague
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Help needed with Great Aunt Norah
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 February 14 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much KGarrad
Surely this death must be him, and the birth you have found is also highly likely  :D
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Re: Help needed with Great Aunt Norah
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 February 14 22:28 GMT (UK) »
And this looks likely in 1901 census?

Class: RG13; Piece: 3979; Folio: 7; Page: 5
Moorfield Avenue, Carleton, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire

Townsend, Joseph  Head  M  40  Carpenter  b Ashton-Under-Lyne
Townsend, Etty  Wife  F  32  r  b Ashton-Under-Lyne
Townsend, Mary J  Daughter  F  13r  b Ashton-Under-Lyne
Townsend, Benjamin H  Son  M  11  b Ashton-Under-Lyne
Townsend, Robert L  Son  M  5  b Carleton
Townsend, Hetty B  Daughter  F  3  b Carleton
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: Help needed with Great Aunt Norah
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 February 14 23:06 GMT (UK) »
From LancashireBMD:

Marriage, 1930, at Old Fylde Register Office or Registrar Attended (so perhaps Catholic, Methodist?)

Townsend, Benjamin Haigh    to    Dempsey, Norah Winifred
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Help needed with Great Aunt Norah
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 February 14 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank you again
The census also confirms a connection to Fylde.
Norah was Christened Catholic, so it's likely Benjamin was Methodist? must be a reason they didn't marry in church  :-\
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Re: Help needed with Great Aunt Norah
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 February 14 23:20 GMT (UK) »
The marriage entry says Registry Office OR Registrar Attended.


That means it wasn't in a C of E church!

Could be register office.
Could be a Catholic Church.
Could be Methodist.
Could be anything that required the attendance of the Registrar!


As Norah was Catholic it is highly likely that the marriage was in the local Catholic Church.
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Re: Help needed with Great Aunt Norah
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 February 14 23:22 GMT (UK) »
From the probate register...

Benjamin Haigh Townsend of 52 Henry Nelson St,South Shields died on 5th Jan 1956 ,administration Newcastle upon Tyne 7 Feb to Norah Winifred Thompson widow

Effects £690 19s 7d
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Re: Help needed with Great Aunt Norah
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 22 February 14 23:26 GMT (UK) »
Sorry KGarrad I read the marriage as being in a register office  :-\
Thank you Carol
Benjamin Haigh Townsend of 52 Henry Nelson St,South Shields died on 5th Jan 1956 ,administration Newcastle upon Tyne 7 Feb to Norah Winifred Thompson widow

Effects £690 19s 7d
does this mean Norah remarried someone named Thompson?
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Dempsey. Bute dock police. Cardiff, Glamorganshire.
Cadden. Granard, Co Longford, Eire.
O'Brien. Cardiff, Glamorganshire.