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Re: Ashworth William, Failsworth, Manchester
« Reply #36 on: Friday 14 March 14 14:06 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. Will take your advise.

Odd an unsourced public tree has Amy A 1868 with a Martha (they say nee Lever ) but that is your Martha in 1881?

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Re: Ashworth William, Failsworth, Manchester
« Reply #37 on: Friday 14 March 14 14:26 GMT (UK) »
In the 1881 census Martha is shown as James's wife. She had been married before to a Johnston. Perhaps her maiden name was Lever. The Martha Lever who married 1866, in Manchester, did not marry a Johnston

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Re: Ashworth William, Failsworth, Manchester
« Reply #38 on: Friday 14 March 14 15:11 GMT (UK) »
James Ashworth married,  Bradford Christ Church Manchester,
spouse,  Martha Johnson,/Martha Hitchings,
1877,
Lancashire bmd


Martha Hitchings , married St John Manchester , spouse George Johnson, 1865,
also Lancashire bmd ,

Amy A Ashworths birth is registered Ancoats Manchester 1867,  no mothers name recorded,
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Re: Ashworth William, Failsworth, Manchester
« Reply #39 on: Friday 14 March 14 15:31 GMT (UK) »
That is really helpful and explains the details of wife 2. I will keep looking for wife 1.


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Re: Ashworth William, Failsworth, Manchester
« Reply #40 on: Friday 14 March 14 15:38 GMT (UK) »
Marriage 2 , gives James, age as 38 , and his  father as John Ashworth
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Re: Ashworth William, Failsworth, Manchester
« Reply #41 on: Friday 14 March 14 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, this now takes me back I more generation.

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Re: Ashworth William, Failsworth, Manchester
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 15 March 14 10:27 GMT (UK) »

Odd an unsourced public tree has Amy A 1868 with a Martha (they say nee Lever ) but that is your Martha in 1881?


1871c James occ Hatter (Finisher) & Martha ASHWORTH with her mother
Hannah LEVER
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZPZ-XML

looking at Lancashire BMD numerous ASHWORTH births Bury North from 1869 up to 1887
mmn LEVER, (William Lever Ashworth born 1869 died age 1)

all the names from 1891c with parents named James & Martha Ashworth match
those on Lancashire BMD

and
1869 marriage
Bury Register Office or Registrar Attended
Martha LEVER   to   James ASHWORTH    

Administration of the personal estate of
Mary Ann Ashworth died 15 Dec 1886  at 14 Bridge Street Bury widow
To next of kin son James Ashworth occ Hatter, of 14 Bridge Street

John Ashworth weaver (x) & Mary Ann Clarke (x) married Dec 22 1844 Bury
both father’s named John occ weaver, hers spinner
witnesses Walker Hardman & R Crompton


James Ashworth married,  Bradford Christ Church Manchester,
spouse,  Martha Johnson,/Martha Hitchings,
1877,
Lancashire bmd


13 Jan 1877
both James & Martha are noted as widowed on the marriage certificate
James Ashworths age 38 (1839) occ asst. manager father John Ashworth warp beamer?
Martha’s father named as William Hitchings occ spinner
Witnesses William Porter Neden & Elizabeth Neden
Martha Johnston made her mark (x), All others signed


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Re: Ashworth William, Failsworth, Manchester
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 15 March 14 12:54 GMT (UK) »
I was looking for James's first marriage between 1865 and 1867, with Amy Alice born Sept 1867. I think that the marriage would have been in Manchester. There is a possibility that James married Mary Ann Fox February 1866. A marriage certificate will be the answer, or the 1871 census showing ?? & James with their child Amy Alice.

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Re: Ashworth William, Failsworth, Manchester
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 15 March 14 13:45 GMT (UK) »
I was looking for James's first marriage between 1865 and 1867, with Amy Alice born Sept 1867.

 I think that the marriage would have been in Manchester.

There is a possibility that James married Mary Ann Fox February 1866. A marriage certificate will be the answer, or the 1871 census showing ?? & James with their child Amy Alice.

Mmm…. not found a James Ashworth with wife named ? & daughter named Amy Alice together on 1871 census  :(

The 1881 census shows James Ashworth was born 1838 Bamford occ Assistant Mill Manager married to Martha (Johnston nee Hitchings)  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQ8N-LFW

There is this 1871 census entry for an Ashworth family living in Ancoates Manchester
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZPX-HC8?cc=1538354

James Ashworth born c1838 Bamford  occ warehouseman
wife Amy Alice age 24 Bolton & they have a daughter aged 3 Manchester but named Sarah Ann  ???

James marriage to Martha Johnstone nee Hitchings his father named John occ Warp Beamer

I'm wondering if this is James with his parents but he's born Bagslate Lancashire not Bamford

1861c RG 9; Piece: 2858; Folio: 74; Page: 46
John Ashworth 45  occ Machine Beamer
Amy 46
JAMES 23 occ Machine Beamer
Ann 11
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