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Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« on: Saturday 01 March 14 00:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I've puzzled about this girl on and off for a few years now. She is shown in the household of  my great great grandmother and my great grandfather on the 1871 census.

1871
Pontyblew, Chirk - RG10/2784/55/25

Mary Parry, wid, 61, washerwoman, b. Oswestry
James, son, unm, 26, collier, b. Chirk
Mary Edwards, boarder, 4, nurse child, b. Cefn

I haven't found any connection to the family and is boarding as a nurse child. Maybe her mother had died and father had asked Mary to look after her - or some such :-\

If anyone can shed some light on the wee girl, I would be grateful.

I have all the  information on my ancestors, it's just mary Edwards that I'm interested in.

Thanks


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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 March 14 08:20 GMT (UK) »
Just found all this in the Ruabon Registers - not sure how I missed the succession of records  ???


Bapt - May 7th 1867 Mary d/o George & Lidia Edwards, Rhosymedre 

Burial - Lydia Edwards - 21 Dec 1867, Rhosymedre. Aged 27

Marriage - George Edwards (23, collier from Newbridge) and Lydia Jarvis (22 from Rhosymedre)   - 31 May 1863
                 Parents - Joseph Edwards, Collier and Simon Jarvis, Quarryman

Now to find what happened to George and Mary.


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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 March 14 09:09 GMT (UK) »
Though I do have a historic Edwards interest in the Rhosymedre area,the Simon Jarvis is also someone of interest to me.I'm curious largely due to his name of Simon and the fact I believe he was born in Rhosymedre from memory I believe about 1810.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 March 14 09:16 GMT (UK) »
George Edwards isn't showing too readily in Census entries before or after his marriage?

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 March 14 09:35 GMT (UK) »
Whilst there are a couple of possible sightings of Mary Edwards as a Servant in 1881,there are almost a succession of "Civil Marriages" for a Mary Edwards in the area from about 1885 onwards.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 March 14 09:37 GMT (UK) »
I've been digging!

So far I've noted ~


Think I've found a possible link - George was born in Chirk, as was his

mother, Sarah. The family are living at Halton (Top Bank) in 1851 -

HO107/1993/800/1

Same place in 1841 - HO107/1399/3/316

Possible marriage - Ruabon 21 October 1839
Joseph Edwards, labourer and Sarah Davies(widow). Abode - Newbridge
Parents - John Edwards, pavier and John Roberts, gardener
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Think Sarah married a David Davies - a son Edward Davies was 9 on the

1841 -
Chirk bpt -
27 MAY 1832 Edward s/o David (labourer) & Sarah Davies, Tenement
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Lydia in 1851 - HO107/2503/138/34
Rhosymedre
Simon Jarvis, 33, labourer, b. Ruabon
Mary, 31, b. do
Sarah, 11, b. do
Lydia, 9, b. do
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Ruabon marriage 29 July 1838
Simon Jarvis and Mary Williams, banns only at the moment!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ruabon bapt
3 Oct 1841 Lydia d/o Simon, labourer and Mary Jervis, Rhosymedre
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Have you got anything  on the Jarvis family?


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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 March 14 09:44 GMT (UK) »
I so far haven't followed up my interest in the Simon Jarvis.He died after 1861,Mary showing in 1871 with just her youngest son Thomas.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 March 14 09:45 GMT (UK) »
How about this - hot off the press:

Ruabon - Baptism 25 Dec 1816
Thomas Simon Jarvis  (Baseborn) s/o Charles  Lovatt, sadler and Elizabeth Jarvis. Both of Ruabon
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Re: Mary Edwards, born Cefn Mawr circa 1867
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 01 March 14 09:54 GMT (UK) »
It cools my interest in the Simon greatly!I'd have very much been interested in him if his mother was a Jones!I'd agree that the 1816 birth looks highly likely to be the Simon Jarvis showing with Mary in 1851 and 1861.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk