Looking for my Grandad Frank Horton of Edge Hill

[robjones]

Hi, I've been on Ancestry for 18 months to two years and findmypast too, trying to find my grandfather.

His name was Frank Horton.

That's as simple as it gets! I have conflicting records about him.

According to relatives he was born in Liverpool. On his first marriage certificate his father was named as Walter. At this time he was living in 26, William Street, Widnes with his wife to be Elizabeth McArdle.

He then had a Catholic ceremony of the same wedding but had his fathers name as Walteri - a latinisation I assume.

He moved away from Liverpool at some point around WWII and remarried in 1939, but had his fathers name as William at this ceremony.

He died in 1949, but his age on the death cert was put at 51, making him born in 1898, which may have been a mistake, maybe it was meant to read 57 and not 51?.

So I'm really confused and can't find any census or military records that will clear this up.

Apparently he had a brother called Isaac (Ike), his mum may have been Mary or Mary-Anne?

I really hope someone can help, I'm at my wits end.

[Blue70]

Hi

Welcome to the forum. Could this be his baptism and death information:-

Name: Frank Horton
Birth Date: 7 Mar 1900
Baptism Date: 21 Mar 1900
Parish: Everton, St Peter
Father's Name: Isaac Horton
Mother's name: Fanny Horton


Name: Frank Horton
Birth Date: 7 Mar 1900
Date of Registration: Jan/Feb/Mar 1972
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Bishop Stortford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 4b
Page: 99



Blue

[suzard]

Hello and welcome to RootsChat


the Catholic marriage  10 m Aug 1919 (after 1st marriage civil contract in 1915)
Groom is  Fransiscum Horton of 23 Harbord St
Parents Walter & Anne Horton (mother's maiden name Baker)


where did you find Mother's name as Mary? or Mary Ann?

Suz

on the 1939 marriage could you please post witness'names  and/ father's occ etc

Suz

[heywood]

Hello and welcome,

what was his and his father's occupation on the marriage certificates please?

heywood

[Ruskie]

Welcome to rootschat Rob.

I see some have beaten me to it. I was also going to ask about father's occupation and also age of Frank on both marriages, as well as years he married.

PS. I have located the family of the Frank, whose baptism was found by Blue,  in the 1911 census .

[Blue70]

The Frank Horton that I found had a father called Isaac and a brother called William Isaac so could this be the right family?


Blue

[suzard]

On the post by robjones - he states the father's name on (civil)marriage cert was Walter and on Catholic cert father is Walter Horton and mother Anne (nee Baker)
They were living at 23 Harbord St at the time of the Catholic ceremony
witnesses were Wilfred Rylance & Florentia McArdle


Are you certain that is the first marriage???

Suz

[Blue70]

1901 Census

Piece: 3482 Folio: 157

28 Rose Vale Everton

(Irton)

Isaac Horton, H, M, 35, Paper Hanger, Liverpool Lancashire
Frances Horton, W, M, 32, Liverpool Lancashire
William Horton, S, 8, Liverpool Lancashire
Richard Horton, S, 5, Liverpool Lancashire
Albert Horton, S, 2, Liverpool Lancashire
Frank Horton, S, 1, Liverpool Lancashire


Blue

[Blue70]

This is the brother William Isaac's baptism surprisingly father Isaac is down as Henry!

Name: William Isaac Horton
Birth Date: 10 Jul 1893
Baptism Date: 6 Aug 1893
Parish: Liverpool, All Saints
Father's Name: Henry Horton
Mother's name: Fanny Horton

Other baptisms:-

Name: Richard Horton
Birth Date: 8 Nov 1895
Baptism Date: 20 Nov 1895
Parish: Everton, St Peter
Father's Name: Isaac Horton
Mother's name: Fanny Horton

Name: Albert Horton
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1898
Baptism Date: 13 Jul 1898
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: Isaac Horton
Mother's name: Fanny Horton

Name: Frances Horton
Birth Date: 2 Jan 1901
Baptism Date: 26 Jan 1902
Parish: Everton, St Peter
Father's Name: Isaac Horton
Mother's name: Frances Horton

Name: Florence Margaret Horton
Birth Date: 22 Oct 1903
Baptism Date: 4 Nov 1903
Parish: Everton, St Peter
Father's Name: Isaac Horton
Mother's name: Frances Horton


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