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A bit of a puzzle
« on: Monday 17 March 14 12:40 GMT (UK) »
Hello
   Can some-one help solve a problem spotted on my tree.was sorting out my peacock family.and all of a sudden spotted.a puzzle.here goes.have
                       JOHN PEACOCK AND ELIZABETH.BOTH MAYBE BORN AROUND 1660
                                              SON
                              THOMAS PEACOCK 1698.RISELEY.BEDFORDSHIRE.
                                                          DIED 27TH MAY 1767.GRAVENHURST.
                               do not know where resting place is.or a stone in place.
                             Thomas Peacock married Sarah Whitamore.born 1705.died 1745.
                                   Had a son.
                                  THOMAS PEACOCK.born 1747.
                                      married.
                                   MARY LITCHFIELD.
 See my querry.had not noticed.SARAH WHITTAMORE.had died.before son THOMAS was born.
 so who was the mother.looked but cannot find.
   am not subcribed to ancestory.so cannot check.
                                  mike
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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 March 14 13:10 GMT (UK) »
FamilySearch has two baptisms for a Thomas Peacock in Bedfordshire in 1747, but neither has a father called Thomas:

Thomas, son of William and Sarah Peacock, baptised 12 April 1747, Riseley.

Thomas, son of John and Mary Peacock, b. 15 Aug 1747 and baptised 30 Aug 1747, Kempston.

There is a Thomas Peacock, son of Thomas and Mary, baptised in Lower Gravenhurst on 6 March 1737, but that seems a little early?  I see that Thomas married Mary Litchfield in 1793.
ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 March 14 14:18 GMT (UK) »

   am not subcribed to ancestory.so cannot check.
                                 
Ancestry isn't the best place to look for this type of information. Use the IGI at www.familysearch.org where virtually all Beds baptisms and marriages pre 1813 are extracted
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 March 14 14:31 GMT (UK) »
Hello
     Thank you.do use.family search org.should have put sarahs marriage details on post
 SARAH WHITTAMORE christened 18th sept 1705.GNOSTALL .STAFFORD .ENGLAND
          Father JAMES WHITTAMORE
 MARRIAGE
          THOS PEACOCK 24th april 1734.BARTON IN THE CLAY.BEDFORDSHIRE.
 BATCH M00330-1 GS FILM 88006
            mike
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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 March 14 14:35 GMT (UK) »
Did Thomas and Mary (Litchfield) have children who survived? If Mary was the one baptised in 1772 then she would have been much younger than her husband if he was born 1740 +/- 10. Are you sure you haven't skipped a generation?
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 March 14 14:38 GMT (UK) »
Hello
     Thank you.do use.family search org.should have put sarahs marriage details on post
 SARAH WHITTAMORE christened 18th sept 1705.GNOSTALL .STAFFORD .ENGLAND
          Father JAMES WHITTAMORE
 MARRIAGE
          THOS PEACOCK 24th april 1734.BARTON IN THE CLAY.BEDFORDSHIRE.
 BATCH M00330-1 GS FILM 88006
            mike

How have you established that the Sarah born in Staffs was the one who married in Beds?
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 March 14 14:57 GMT (UK) »
HELLO
      Found the marriage on family search org.maybe jumping the gun.and assuming mine.anyway
 thomas peacock and mary litchfield.had a son JOHANNES PEACOCK 1799-1849.HE MARRIED
 MARY DICKINS.1800-1885.
 This is were my line really starts.sadly all the peacock family have passed away.my aunt was the last in 2000.
   if gone wrong can you point me in the correct direction please
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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 March 14 16:07 GMT (UK) »
Where are John & Mary in 1841.  :-\  OK they are in Riseley ..

I can see a Mary of the right age and a widow in 1851 with son Bela and grandaughter Lavinia Todd Peacock in Riseley but in 1841 she is with a James Peacoc:-\  The christening of Bela does however give father as Johannes    Had a better look at census and probably does say Johannes  ;D

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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 March 14 16:39 GMT (UK) »
I think you need to start at the marriage of Johannes Peacock and Mary Dickins on 15 Jan 1822 at Riseley. I don't have very much confidence in anything you show before this.

Johannes Peacock was buried age 50 in Riseley in 1849. He appears in Riseley in 1841 age 40 ie age 40-45. I can't find a baptism for him. How have you established that he was the son of Thomas and Mary (Litchfield) Peacock?
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell