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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 23 March 14 00:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi david
         Sorry for not replying.to earlier post.been busy.all quiet now.did not know what .a can of worms was opening.when first posted.my querry.but had a very excellent. response.and detailed information.myself.not a chance finding out.had a reply from my family tree helper.said could not recall
 where found .out the peacock information.and seems to think it all okay.says cannot find sarah whittamore.details.and am i sure.about thomas not been the son.its a bit late.but will have to kindly tell her.have made a terrible error.and must send a few peacocks out to pasture.will e-mail kathy tomorrow.as john and mary need a home.on my tree.kathy does not like deleted any people.but in this case .afraid.this is one of those times.just noticed on one of my ancestory post.have a peacock member.with gell as is family searchs.
        am of to bed.and will try not to dream of peacocks.?
                 mike
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names.smith.hobman.lazenby.earl.abbey.walton.russell.to name a few.

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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 23 March 14 14:24 GMT (UK) »
Hello
    Was looking around.bit bored today.my team got a hammering.so trying to cheer myself up.came across this item.my not be about my peacock.family.but the name DICKINS .caught my eye.this the item.its long.
 OVERSEERS OF THE POOR.SETTLEMENT.MISCELLANCOUS.
            AGREEMENT.P48-16-1 4TH OCT 1743
               CONTENTS
 (1)
    Rev Thomas Lufton.Vicar Of Keysoe.Samuel Richards.Churchwarden and Overseer.of The Poor.
Richard Brice.The Other Churchwarden.Thomas Woodham.Robert Lee.Simon Stapleton.Abraham Barber.John Barber.James Walford The Younger.Thomas Richards.Richard  Robbins.Thomas Hall.
Thomas Hartop.Henry Folbig.John Halfhide.Simon Folbigg.
 Principal Inhabitants Of The Parish Of Keysoe
  (2)
      Rev Wells.Vicar Of Riseley.John Toms.and Peter Creak .Churchwardens. Joseph Flockner and
   WILLIAM PEACOCK. Overseers.
  Thomas Rootham (senior) Robert Rootham (senior) Joseph Ward. Then Sadly Various Names All Scribbled Out. Benjamin Mabbs.William Ekins.John Norman.Nathaniel Harper and lastly Allen Smart
  Principal Inhabitants Of The Parish Of Risey
     Whereas Since The Last Quarter Sessions.For The County Of Bedfordshire.A Removel Order.Has
  Been Made And Carried Out.For The Removel  Of ELIZABETH DICKINS.
 Widow From Keysoe To Riseley.Where She Now Resides.Inhabitants Of Both Parishs Belive It To Be
 A Matter Of Grave Doubts.Whether The Said ELIZABETH DICKINS. Was Last Legally Settled In The
 Parish Of Keysoe Or Riseley.Being Apprehensive That It Might Be Much More Expensive To Both
 Parishs To Try And  Determine The Merits Of The Settlement  At Law. Than To Maintain And Clothe
 Her At Their Joint Equal Expence.:Insmuch As She Is Grown Very Old: And To Avoid Any Proceedings .e.t.c. The Inhabitants Of  The Two Parishs Agree That She Shall Be Maintained At The
 Equal Expensive Of Keysoe And Riseley
 NOW
  (1) AND (2)
  Agree That They Will Pay One Half Of All Sums Of Money As Shall Be Paid By Either Parish.For The
Maintenace And Support Of The Said ELIZABETH DICKINS.Provided That She Does Not By Any
 Future Act Of Means Acquire A Settlement Elewhere.
   SIGNATURES ALL ALL PARTIES SIGN
  Just thought the peacock name and dickins name was intresting
    mike
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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 23 March 14 19:03 GMT (UK) »
HI
  Just Had  Reply To My E-MAIL .Kathy Says Am Right. Some Peacocks Need Setting Lose.Am  I
Correct, In What Am Putting In
          Thomas Peacock.Birth 8th dec 1760.died 1836.
                  Married
            Mary Litchfied.birth 1773.died 1832
                 Parents Need To Put In
             John Peacock birth 1718 died 4th nov 1792
             Mary Peacock birth 1721 died 24th sept 1801.
 Taking One Step AT a Time. Need To Get Right..Lots To Take In
                  mike














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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 23 March 14 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Peacock.Birth 8th dec 1760.died 2 Jan 1836.
                  Married
            Mary Litchfied.birth 1773.Baptised 29 Nov 1772 died 22 Jan 1832
                 Parents Need To Put In
             John Peacock birth 1718 Baptised 20 Oct 1717 died Buried 4th nov 1792
             Mary Peacock birth 1721 died Buried 24th sept 1801.
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell


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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 23 March 14 21:11 GMT (UK) »
HI Bedfordshireboy
                         Thank you.glad posted on here.thought had written details .of site correct.just shows .how careful need to be.just has well doing it slowly.next step is putting john and marys children in.
 thanks again.
         mike
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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #41 on: Monday 24 March 14 14:20 GMT (UK) »
I think you need to start at the marriage of Johannes Peacock and Mary Dickins on 15 Jan 1822 at Riseley. I don't have very much confidence in anything you show before this.

Riseley marriages between 1812 & 1837
15 Jan 1822 Johannes Peacock to Mary Dickins, both of this parish
witnesses Joseph Willett & Sarah Rootham

24 Apr 1820 Charles Smith to Tryphena Peacock, both of this parish
witnesses William Smith & Ann Ekins

13 Oct 1823 Charles Warren to Flora Peacock, both of this parish
witnesses Charles Croot & Daniel Gell (parish clerk)
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Partridge - North Beds; Northants & Peterborough
Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #42 on: Monday 24 March 14 15:10 GMT (UK) »
Riseley marriage transcript has entry dated 25/12/1745 just saying "John & Mary Peacock by banns"
** just had a thought - wonder if this is John Peacock marrying Mary Peacock ??
Mary daughter of Thomas & Mary Peacock baptised 5/2/1722-23 ??

Beds Archives have an indexed transcribed list of the Bedford Congregation of Moravian Church (ref CRT 170/7/12) in which it contains the same Peacock names that you can get when using the on-line search at their web site, although the list has more useful details and is more correct (some website entries are incorrect I found).

One entry is for Mary Peacock junior married sister, born Riseley 2 Feb 1722/23, maiden name Peacock, received into church 17/1/1749-50, 1st admitted 5/4/1751, became widow in 1792. Her husband John Peacock buried age 75 on 4 Nov 1792   

Another entry for Mary Peacock, senior, married sister - widow, born Riseley 12 Oct 1701, received 28/9/1748, 1st admitted 23/1/1749, went out of this world 15/10/1751. This Mary Peacock was buried at Bedford Moravian on 17 Oct 1751 age 51.
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Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #43 on: Monday 24 March 14 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Hello John p-Bedford
                             Am slightly confused now,does this mean can only put in Johannes Peacock
 and Mary dickins marriage.forget every-thing you have told me.as you were troubled by the Johannes peacock.asking were did i get him from. wondering if back to the drawing board.
      a very puzzled
                    mike
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Re: A bit of a puzzle
« Reply #44 on: Monday 24 March 14 19:20 GMT (UK) »
Mike

I can't see that John has written anything that upsets what we've already concluded - that Johannes who married Mary Dickins was the son of Thomas who married Mary Litchfield (see reply #22 for my thoughts on Johannes).

You need to go through the whole of this thread very carefully and methodically writing up all of the information it contains. It's all in there, but it's up to you to sort it into some semblance of order. We can extract various snippets of information but with a number of people involved they don't always come out in a nice neat package, generation by generation.

David

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell