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Re: Help please, re child raised by Samuel & Anne Ward in Shrewsbury
« Reply #9 on: Friday 21 March 14 08:14 GMT (UK) »
I notice that Sir Thomas Munro's will is dated 1828? When was it written?
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Re: Help please, re child raised by Samuel & Anne Ward in Shrewsbury
« Reply #10 on: Friday 21 March 14 08:20 GMT (UK) »
The will was written in 1819 & he died 6 Jul 1827
CHS: Boulderstone, Lomas, Bracegirdle, Worsencroft, Whitelegg, Jones, Simpson, Harding, Walley, Crewe<br />LAN: Butterworth, Holme, Brierley, Hoyle, Keary, Taylor, Bonney, Winterbottom, Bennison, Roscoe<br />W/MIDS: Stringer, Gill, Hampton, Hancox, Grainger, Parkes, Bodily, Jeavons, Ellis, Troman<br />MSX, LON, SRY: Stoner, Russell, Colebrook, Deighton, Husher, Bonney, Knott, Boatwright, Woodman, Smith<br />CLA: Quinn, Creedy, McGrath, McInerney, Arkins<br />COR: Lenihan, Connor, Byrne, Welsh<br

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Re: Help please, re child raised by Samuel & Anne Ward in Shrewsbury
« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 March 14 08:24 GMT (UK) »
Just wondering why she is Scott in 1819 and Thompson later.

Also, but it may be irrelevant, what is the source of that part of the article naming her as Thompson  :-\ it can't be the will.

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Re: Help please, re child raised by Samuel & Anne Ward in Shrewsbury
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 March 14 08:33 GMT (UK) »
The will was written in 1819 & Thomas Munro died 6 Jul 1827.
She was a spinster aged 23 when she married as Jessie Munro Scott THOMSON.
The newspaper marriage notices use the name THOMSON

October 04, 1833 - Liverpool Mercury - Liverpool, Merseyside, England
"On Thursday, the 26th ult. at St. Mary's Church, Shrewsbury, James, eldest son of James Crewe, Esq. solicitor, of this town (Liverpool) to Miss Jessey M. S. Thomson, of the former place." (Shrewsbury)

and the same paragraph appeared in the .... October 05, 1833 - Preston Chronicle - Preston, Lancashire, England

The baptismal records of the children & the will of Thomas Munro use the surname SCOTT for her.
CHS: Boulderstone, Lomas, Bracegirdle, Worsencroft, Whitelegg, Jones, Simpson, Harding, Walley, Crewe<br />LAN: Butterworth, Holme, Brierley, Hoyle, Keary, Taylor, Bonney, Winterbottom, Bennison, Roscoe<br />W/MIDS: Stringer, Gill, Hampton, Hancox, Grainger, Parkes, Bodily, Jeavons, Ellis, Troman<br />MSX, LON, SRY: Stoner, Russell, Colebrook, Deighton, Husher, Bonney, Knott, Boatwright, Woodman, Smith<br />CLA: Quinn, Creedy, McGrath, McInerney, Arkins<br />COR: Lenihan, Connor, Byrne, Welsh<br


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Re: Help please, re child raised by Samuel & Anne Ward in Shrewsbury
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 03 April 14 05:33 BST (UK) »
Mystery is solved!
Between 1780 -1807 Thomas Munro spent most of his military life in India.
1807 -1814 Thomas Munro was in Scotland. Thomas was MY 4XGREAT-GRANDFATHER
1810 Thomas Munro and a woman not yet known to me had a dau Jessey Scott Thompson who was MY 3XGREAT-GRANDMOTHER.
1814 Major General, Thomas Munro , married Jane Campbell and they moved to India. They had 2 sons. (one born at sea & one born in Scotland)
I don’t know who Jessey lived with 1810-1816.
1816 a friend of Thomas Munro named Colonel William Cunningham arranged the 'adoption' of Jessie Thompson, Thomas' illegitimate daughter. Thomas always acknowledged Jessey & paid for her maintenance, education & marriage, so he was in contact with her for his lifetime.
Jessie was placed with Samuel Ward, Captain of the Shrewsbury Yeomen Cavalry and his wife Ann, nee Crewe. Jessie was then about 6 years old.
1825 Major General, Thomas Munro, Governor of Madras, was created a baronet.
1827 Major General, Sir Thomas Munro 1st Baronet of Lindertis, Governor of Madras, died of cholera in Madras. He left a bequest for illegitimate dau Jessey Scott Thompson in his will.
1831 Jessey Munro Scott Thompson and James Crewe (nephew of Ann Ward) witnessed Samuel Ward’s will.
1831 Samuel Ward died
1833 James Crewe and Jessey Munro Scott Thompson married & had 4 children 1834-1839
CHS: Boulderstone, Lomas, Bracegirdle, Worsencroft, Whitelegg, Jones, Simpson, Harding, Walley, Crewe<br />LAN: Butterworth, Holme, Brierley, Hoyle, Keary, Taylor, Bonney, Winterbottom, Bennison, Roscoe<br />W/MIDS: Stringer, Gill, Hampton, Hancox, Grainger, Parkes, Bodily, Jeavons, Ellis, Troman<br />MSX, LON, SRY: Stoner, Russell, Colebrook, Deighton, Husher, Bonney, Knott, Boatwright, Woodman, Smith<br />CLA: Quinn, Creedy, McGrath, McInerney, Arkins<br />COR: Lenihan, Connor, Byrne, Welsh<br

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Re: Help please, re child raised by Samuel & Anne Ward in Shrewsbury
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 April 14 08:42 BST (UK) »
That's good news for you  :)
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Re: Help please, re child raised by Samuel & Anne Ward in Shrewsbury
« Reply #15 on: Friday 07 January 22 23:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I have found information to give you the name of Jessy's mother that you are looking for.

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Re: Help please, re child raised by Samuel & Anne Ward in Shrewsbury
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 08 January 22 09:49 GMT (UK) »
Very interesting story.
It would be great if you could find Jessie.s baptism .

And the reason why she used then dropped the surname THOMPSON in favour of SCOTT

Do let us know when you find the mother's maiden name .

Did WARD family have any connections to either of those family names .

I have an example where a single mother gave her child two middle names one the Surname of her first child's father + of the claimed birth  father whose first name the child also had .

since then DNA connections have proved that the son was indeed child of second man .
Could Jessie have been ascribed a father ( maybe deceased)  for the sake of respectability and her mother been described as a widow gone on to marry a THOMPSON or SCOTT

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Re: Help please, re child raised by Samuel & Anne Ward in Shrewsbury
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 31 July 22 13:52 BST (UK) »
I know all about Jessy's birth if you are still interested. I am writing a book about Sir Thomas Munro and there is a letter from her in the Munro papers, and also one from her Mother Jessy Mcquorcadel from April 1813. She lived at 423 Lawn Market Edinburgh. The affair is mentioned by Burton Stein in his book on Thomas Munro.