Richard Edmunds marriage.

[wilcoxon]

Sorry if this a bit long winded, but it`s all needed to follow the plot 

1841 Forden .  Montgomeryshire
Richard Edmunds  35 farmer Y
 Fanny Edmunds  30 N

1851 Leighton . Montgomeryshire
Richard Edmunds  47 farmer  b Forden
 Frances Edmunds wife  42 b Chirbury Shropshire
 George Edmunds  son 14 b Forden
 Elizabeth Edmunds  dau 7 b Forden

In 1861Richard states that he is married, but there is no trace of Frances.
There is a death of a  Frances Edmunds registered Dec qtr 1851 Mongomery.

1861 Middle . Ellesmere .  Where and who is his wife ?
Richard Edmunds  mar 55 b Forden, Mongomeryshire
Elizabeth Edmunds  dau 18 b Forden.
Mary Edmunds   dau 1 b Forden (Mary Edmunds Sept 1859 Ellesmere ?)

Marriage 30 Apr 1867 Llandrinio, Montgomeryshire,
Richard Edmunds widower 61 residence Middle,
Mary Edmunds spinster 27 residence Llandrinio.

1871. Middle Farm, Middle. Ellesmere,
Richard Edmunds  65 farmer.b Montgomeryshire
Mary Edmunds wife 30 b Montgomeryshire
Sarah Edmunds daughter  7 b Staffordshire. (Sep qtr  1863   Edmunds, Sarah.  Tamworth )
In 1871 Mary is at a boarding school.

Now – if Mary and Sarah are both born before Richards marriage to Mary, then was he married to another wife.
He doesn't seem to be the type to have had two children born out of wedlock and is described as a gentleman when he married Mary .

Can anyone find the missing wife. I have tried but not had much luck.
Thanks.

[Alberbury]

George Edmonds bp. 28th June 1835 Forden    familysearch no parents listed

Where was George on the 1841 Census?

Found the marriage of Richard Edmonds to Fanny Jones  1st June 1832 Trelystan
Also this marriage Richard Edmonds to Mary Lewis 17th Nov 1829 Kerry

You will need the Birth Certificates, baptisms of Mary and Sarah, to show the mother.

[trish1120]

I agree the Certs are important as Mary may be Elizabeths illeg Daughter and Richard has taken her as his.

[wilcoxon]

I found a couple of  trees on Ancestry. None are much help, in fact some are most definitely wrong.
The other one has the Richard and Frances family, none go further than  1851 and all have him also dying in Wisconsin.

Richard Edmunds.    Father Francis Edmunds.
Born 1803 17 May Montgomeryshire, Wales.
Marriage to Mary Lewis1829 17 Nov Age: 26Wales
1 Source▼ 
Residence1841 Age: 38Kerry, Montgomeryshire, Wales.
Arrival 1845 Age: 42Wisconsin
Death 1892 30 Jan Age: 88 Wisconsin, United States

Sarah b Staffs  married and had no children, her sister Mary remained a spinster.
I know these are correct because when Mary dies in Wrexham she leaves probate to Sarahs husband.

I won`t be bothering with the births , as they are  not of the main line I`m looking at.
I can`t find them on FindMyPast.
Thanks for the help .

[Alberbury]

Richard bp. 29th Aug 1802 Forden   F. William & Elizabeth Edmonds 
Richard bp. 10th June 1803 Kerry     no parents listed

William Edmonds  married Elizabeth Pryce    17th Feb 1795 Forden

William bp. 15th Jan 1769 Forden  F. John & Mary Edmunds

John bur. 11th Apr 1844 Forden            all familyseach.org

[Alberbury]

No. 74   Trelystan                        Shropshire Archives today.
Richard Edmonds  of the Parish
  of Welshpool,
and  Fanny Jones   of the Parish
  of Chirbury
were married in the Chapel by License  with consent of
this first Day of
June One thousand eight hundred and thirty two      1832
        By me Thos'  Goldsboro', Curate

Richard X his mark                    Pres.  Gilbert Pugh,  signed 
Fanny   X her mark                             Mary Edmonds,  signed

[wilcoxon]

 
I think I have cracked it.  I didn`t spot it before 
When Mary was found at the boarding  school in 1871, there was also a Fanny Edmunds aged 10 also born Middle. There was no relationship given but now it seems that they were sisters.
Unfortunately Fanny was born Sept qtr 1861 so doesn`t appear in the census. Again this is before Richard married Mary Edmunds in 1867.

I searched for a death in the area and found this.
Deaths Dec 1865   Ellesmere, Mary Edmunds

I looked for a marriage between the death of Francis in 1851 and the birth of Mary in 1859.
There were only three with a spouse named Mary.

This is the one, but not where I would have expected.
Marriage 2 Nov 1857 Chelsea Holy Trinity. Kensington and Chelsea . Both of full age.
Richard Edmunds widower farmer, residence St Martin’s Square City of London.
Father  William Edmunds farmer ( same as his marriage in 1867)
Mary Groome spinster residence Chelsea.   Father: Edward Groome

I then checked the 1861 census .
1861 Smethcote Baschurch.
Edward Groom  40 unm farmer b Hadnall Shrops
Jane Groom  sister 42 b Hadnall Shrops
Mary Edmunds sister married, visitor farmers wife  39 b Hadnall Shrops

In 1851 Mary is described as born Middle,  this is too much of a coincidence for it not to be the right one. Living in Shatton,  Bashurch.
Not found in 1841.

I am 99.99% sure this is the second marriage and this Mary is therefore the mother of my Mary and Fanny.
A further clue is that Fanny married William Robinson in Mar qtr  1884  Ellesmere, Shropshire.
and here we have a William Robinson . I think from looking further back that the Robinsons are linked to Richard`s current wife .
1871. Middle Farm, Middle. Ellesmere,
Richard Edmunds  65 farmer 450 acres, 6 men 3 boys.b Montgomeryshire
Mary Edmunds wife 30 b Montgomeryshire
William Robinson nephew 19 assistant on farm  b Montgomershire
Sarah Edmunds daughter  7 b Staffordshire

Now, why on earth did the marriage take place in London