Shipp Inn Egremont Cumberland

[gjd58]

Hi to Ayemas and Sandra, My Great, Great Grandfather was a Thomas Davidson who was the Landlord of the Ship Launch Inn after retiring from the Army until his death in 1897. He was married to a Margaret McLaughlin and one of their sons, a Charles Davidson was my Great Grandfather. He married a Margaret Maude Tidyman. They ended up in Southern Rhodesia where my Grandfather John Davidson and  his siblings were born. I see that in your postings, the name Tidyman was mentioned several times. I hope that this information may be of interest to you and I would appreciate any information that you may have on my ancestors.
Regards,
Graham D.

[FRED LONG]

Hi,
Roots Chatters, can anyone tell me if the Shipp Inn in Egremont, Cumberland.On the 1861  Census is still there, and where exactly it was or is
Thanks
Ayemas

[FRED LONG]

The Post Office Directory of 1858 lists a Mrs A Waddell as the publican of the Ship on Main Street Egremont at that time.

The Post Office Directory of 1873 lists a Grainger Noble as the publican of the Ship Launch on Main Street at that time.
But the Ship Launch was on North Road at Number 68

The old Captains House at Bigrigg used to be called the Ship.  But that's on Springfield Road.



 

[*Sandra*]

Welcome to RootsChat Fred Long.

Ann Waddell was the Innkeeper of the Ship Inn (listed on Main Street) in 1861
(No on schedule was 78)

Ann Waddell   45   Head. Inn keeper.
Christopher Moor 17 Son. Draper.
Gillpin Waddell 9 Son
Annie Waddell 5 Daughter
Margaret Shettleton 19 Servant
Anthony Cooper 40 Lodger.

Next door was Isaac Watson and his family.= in 1861.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PD-PLH

Mary Watson 39 Head
John Tidyman 20 Son
Margaret Watson 10 Daughter
Isaac Watson   7   Son
Mary Ann Watson 4 Daughter

Family Search just listed as Innkeeper. Obviously no image on Family Search.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PD-P21

1871 census  shows Grainger Noble Snr (Ag Labourer) at the Ship Inn with his family.
Station Lodge address was above on census

Granger Noble   51   Head
Eleanon Noble 30 Wife
Granger Noble 10 Son.
Mary J Noble 8 Daughter
John Noble 6 Son
Margaret Noble 4 Daughter
James Noble 1 Son
Margaret Murphy 18 Servant

1881 census Ship Inn - next door to Railway Station.

Eleanor Noble 42 Head. Innkeeper.
Grainger Noble   20   Son. Spirit Merchant.
Mary J. Noble 18 Daughter
John Noble 16 Son. Iron Miner.
Margaret Noble 14 Daughter. Gen Dom Serv.
Darcy B. Noble 9 Son
Jane Noble 5 Daughter
John Servals 24 Boarder
James Roan 26 Boarder
Lawrence Inness 45 Boarder

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-2TNK

According to the local history by E A Read, The Ship was known as the Railway Hotel  in the middle of the century ??

Fred you referred to The Old Captains House Public House at Bigrigg. (photo)

https://www.useyourlocal.com/pubs/old-captains-house-egremont-86902/

There was an inquest held into the death of a miner William Simpson  in 1905 that was held at the Ship in Bigrigg.

http://www.dmm.org.uk/news19/9050316.htm

Lease of the 'Ship Inn' and land at Bigrigg 1887

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/1327e5e4-bb92-4f95-95cf-af2e023a3b51


Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Hi to Ayemas and Sandra, My Great, Great Grandfather was a Thomas Davidson who was the Landlord of the Ship Launch Inn after retiring from the Army until his death in 1897. He was married to a Margaret McLaughlin and one of their sons, a Charles Davidson was my Great Grandfather. He married a Margaret Maude Tidyman. They ended up in Southern Rhodesia where my Grandfather John Davidson and  his siblings were born. I see that in your postings, the name Tidyman was mentioned several times. I hope that this information may be of interest to you and I would appreciate any information that you may have on my ancestors.
Regards,
Graham D.

Hi Graham.

Welcome to Rootschat.

Almost a year since you posted, sorry never noticed your post for some reason.
You may already have alot of information so it is difficult to know what exactly you are looking for.
Hopefully there may be something in these snippets below.

Margaret Maud TIDYMAN - mentioned on Geneanet

https://gw.geneanet.org/katben?n=tidyman&oc=&p=margaret+maud

Background info.

1891 census 68 North Road. - Ship Inn.

Thomas Davidson aged 67 years. Innkeeper.
Margaret Davidson aged 46 years.
Robert Davidson aged 26 years.
Laura Davidson aged 19 years.  Dress Maker.

1881 Brewery Lane Egremont

Thomas Davidson   57   Head. Serjeant Irish Rifle Vols Chelsea Pensioner.
Margaret Davidson 37 Wife
Robert Davidson 16 Son
Oliver H. Davidson 14 Son  (H is Horatio)
Mary H. Davidson 12 Daughter
Laura Davidson 10 Daughter
Charles D. Davidson 7 Son

1871 census Egremont Cumberland.

Thomas Davidson   47   Head
Margaret Davidson 28 Wife
Thomas Davidson 8 Son
Robert Davidson 6 Son
Olive H Davidson 4 Son
Mary H Davidson 2 Daughter
Sarah Rabb 15 Servant

UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Soldier Service Records, 1760-1920

Sergeant Thomas Davidson 1823 Belfast Antrim.
Enlistment Age   18 Discharge Age   39
Enlistment Year   1841 Discharge Year   1862
Regiment   Forty Fifth Regt of Infantry
Regimental Number   2013

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

You have probably seen this entry.


FIND A GRAVE

Egremont Cemetery Egremont, Cumberland.

Thomas Davidson (aged 72 years) - Innkeeper - Died at North Road  - Buried C Con 222 - cost of grave £523

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/232682060/thomas-davidson

 
also the daughter Mary Helen Scanlan died 16 March 1895 at the Ship Launch Inn - aged 26 years - plus her infant children.

[*Sandra*]

Son Robert Davidson passed away in Southern Zambia - 19 February 1947
spouse Sarah Ann Davidson. son John Falcon Davidson.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPHF-8RW6

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3M-4QM4-6?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQPHF-8RW6&action=view

FIND A GRAVE

1864 - 1947

Livingstone Old Cemetery Livingstone, Southern, Zambia.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/217840416/robert-davidson

[AlanBoyd]

Image of the (closed) Ship Launch Inn, North Road, Egremont here:

https://www.closedpubs.co.uk/cumberland/egremont_shiplaunch.html

[AlanBoyd]

A side-by-side map view. The marked Inn is the Ship Launch Inn. On the satellite image it is the building with a white car parked outside, now a private house, no. 68 North Road as seen on Streetview, where the visual match to the image of the Ship Launch Inn is 100% (configuration of door and windows, extension at the left, low wall separating it from next house to the right).

https://tinyurl.com/3rjwkeyu