William Charles McEntee (father+son) early 1800's - Help, please.

[jazdrv]

Hello,

I've just recently started working on my personal family tree. We have a bit of a family mystery that I haven't been able to work out. I joined a local family history center here in Aberdeen Scotland (where I live currently live) and discovered rootschat.com this way. Please forgive me, if I'm using this forum in the wrong way.

Here's my issue:

There was a family living in Birmingham where a man named William Charles McEntee (1823-1894) originally from Dublin, had several children with Emma Kenworthy (1827-1908). I've been able to find census reports the prove the relationship between most of the children and their parents. But the one that I care about most, I cannot. (The son's name would be William Charlton McEntee (1865?-1937?))

I have two reasons to believe this father-son relationship existed. (1) I've talked to someone on ancestry who claims she has a will by the father that mentions the son. I've asked for a copy, but no answer as of yet. And, (2) The son ended up moving to Guatemala and El Salvador and had children there. But, his kids at a later point, I have proof that they stayed in England with (what would be) William Jr's sister.

So I'm sure there was a connection. I just wish I knew for sure what it was and I had better proof.

What I'm trying to figure out is... how could I go about finding any further proof about this father-son relationship? Perhaps birth records in the Birmingham area for around 1823? Do they exist? If so, how to find them?

Any advice would be welcome.

Zak Jones

[warncoort]

Purchase of 1865 birth certificate will be the proof.

[jim1]

It may pay to get the will yourself:
https://courttribunalfinder.service.gov.uk/courts/london-probate-department
The Calendar says he died in Jersey & was probated to son Edward Brook McEntee.
I think this is your William:

Name:
William C McEnter ( probably a transcription error )

Date of Registration:
Mar 1866
Registration district:
King's Norton
Worcestershire
Volume:
6c
Page:
431
Charlotte & Kathleen were also registered there.
IGI has a Mary Ann Matilda & a Helena Florence McEntee Baptised in Balsall Heath 8/2/1860. Parents William Charles & Emma McEntee.
Balsall Heath now part of B'ham Warks was part of Worcs. at that time & the Reg. Dist. was King's Norton.

jim

[jazdrv]

Sorry to both of you for not replying sooner. I thought I might receive an email on this thread of there was a response. But none was triggered!

So I was really happy to see your two responses! And both great tips.

I hadn't realized that I could order a birth cert. I live in Scotland currently and the family research center here didn't mention such a thing being possible.

And, I didn't realize I could get the will either.

Thank you! I'll look into both ideas.

Zak Jones

[jim1]

This is the information you will need:
Name: William C McEntee
Year: 1866
Date : March Quarter
Reg. Dist: King's Norton
Vol: 6C
Page: 431
You can order it from here:
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
Cost: £9.25

[jazdrv]

Wow! I will!



Thank you!

Zak Jones

[soffiv90]

William Charlton McEntee is my grandfather, he only had one son, which is my father. If you want to get any information I'll be glad to help out!

[jazdrv]

Hello, it's been some time since I've been asking for information on this topic. I believe I found the answer that I was looking for ... since I have a birth certificate that I successfully ordered for William (Guillermo) Charles McEntee (b.1865) where he was born in Kings Heath, Kings Norton, Worcester, England.  I also have autosomal DNA proof (ancestryDNA) that connects me to this line.

You're saying there was only one son. I'm confused though. I see that William Sr. had another son named Edward. And that William Jr. had a couple different sons as well (three different ladies in which he had children that I know of).

My ancestry profile for the son is:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/67935280/person/30173366909

My ancestry profile for the father is:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/67935280/person/30177976371

I'd love to see your tree too though!

Zak J.

[soffiv90]

I tried attaching the newspaper article saying what happened to him, but I'm not sure if it attached