Tara,
You've been incredibly gracious with your time. I honestly didn't know what to expect by coming to rootschat. Or upon asking how to retrieve Irish information specifically. I do have some other family members on other parts of my tree that I'm sure will be their own challenges. So looking for William McEntee (probably one of the odder and mysterious parts of my tree) is my first attempt to just simply understand the process.
And thank you for finding William and Jane.
I'm guess that's a bit ambiguous though. I can see what you mean by needing more background information to see if it's really a match!
Regarding some of your other questions (and again, you'll have to forgive me on my answers -- I'm a true novice!):
- William Charles McEntee (b. 1865) is my g-g-grandfather.
- William Charles McEntee (b. 1823?) would be my g-g-g-grandfather.
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William Charles McEntee and Emma Kenworthy marriage certificate -- I have this through ancestry's default hint help:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FreeBMDMarriage&h=19324627&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t67935280_p30177976371_kpidz0q3d30177976371z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid I don't know if this is a true marriage certificate. But ancestry is suggesting that this is proof of marriage to Emma Kenworthy in Birmingham in 1851 when he was 28 years old.
I'm guessing you're suggesting that I find a "real" marriage certificate as it may show proof of the parents and potentially the father's occupation?
- Proof of William (the father)'s birth location being Ireland: 1861 census (
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/ViewRecordRedir.aspx?tid=67935280&pid=30177976371&dbid=8767&rpid=20864849&nam=William%2bCharles%2bMcEntee&pg=32768&pgpl=pid), 1871 census (
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/ViewRecordRedir.aspx?tid=67935280&pid=30177976371&dbid=7619&rpid=2756733&nam=William%2bCharles%2bMcEntee&pg=32768&pgpl=pid), and 1881 census (
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/ViewRecordRedir.aspx?tid=67935280&pid=30177976371&dbid=7572&rpid=23624658&nam=William%2bCharles%2bMcEntee&pg=32768&pgpl=pid).
1871 and 1881 censuses say he's from Dublin.
I only have proof from the censuses.
- Proof of William (the father)'s occupation: 1861 census - says he's a hardware merchant, 1871 census - says he's a merchant manufacturer, 1881 census - says he's a foreign hardware merchant.
- Proof of William (the father's) year of birth: 1881 census - would put his YOB at around: 1823, 1871 census - would put his YOB at around: 1822, 1881 census - would put his YOB at around: 1824.
So I'm guessing his real year of birth was 1823.
- Proof of William (the father's) religion: I wouldn't know how to get that.
- Proof of William (the father's) part of Dublin that he came from: I wouldn't know how to get that.
- Proof of William (the father's) parents name and including mother's maiden name: I wouldn't know how to get that.
- Proof of William (the father's) father's occupation: I wouldn't know how to get that.
- Regarding the William McEntee b. 1785 in England. I'm getting the sense, that I should exhaust all possibilities before getting into Ireland, because doing the research there is a bit painstaking. I haven't looked into that lead. And I will!
- Regarding the William and Jane in Dublin, I'd like to know more about them absolutely! But, I'm thinking it may not be a match because of the years involved. Their son wasn't born between 1822-1824. And, I'm feeling cautious about looking into this further if it's a hard process.
If it was a better year match, then I'd feel more confident.
I'm thinking perhaps trying to get a proper marriage certificate (if that's not what I have) might be the next step as it may reveal more clues?
I've also seen some articles in the britishnewspaperarchives.co.uk for William Charles McEntee in Birmingham. Per your advice, I'm thinking I should do my best to get more background information.
Does that sound like a good plan?
Zak
