William Taylor b1850 Kirkintilloch.

[loobylooayr]

Hi folks,
Could this be Angus on the 1851 Census?

As transcribed on Freecen-
Hillhead, Kirkintilloch.

Angus Craig  Unmarried Lodger  20   Hand Loom Weaver    born Midlothian, Musselburgh

How many Musselburgh Anguses would be in Kirkintilloch in 1850s??

Still eluding me on 1861.

And bearing in mind all the unreliable ages - look at this birth - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYBN-WHX
I cannot find any trace of this on SP.

Looby
 
Added - Angus Craig is lodging with a family called Niven

[MonicaL]

Looby, who do you think is John Vickars b. 1855 that you found?

Monica

[loobylooayr]

I was looking for John Carey - aged 18 therefore approx. 1853 birth at Kirkintilloch Dunbartonshire.
Me at my usual - going off on a tangent - round all the houses , trying to get something to link the Careys and William Taylor. And bearing in mind the irregularity of the ages I thought John could be a bit younger than recorded.

When I found what appears to be an illegitimate birth of a John with mother Catherine I tried finding her on 1851. Drew a blank. Couldn't find likely candidates for them on 1861 either!
Plus can't find the birth on Scotlands People.
Maybe Familysearch have made a mistake.
Looby

[MonicaL]

We like going off tangent when the going gets tough 

They seem to pop in an out of records don't they  I thought they had left Scotland, but having likely found them in Scotland in 1891 seems likely they would head off at the age of c. 60 (contrary to their 50 in 1891!).

But then again, can't easily see anything on deaths for Catherine so far.

Monica

[loobylooayr]

Back to the chappie and the heart of all this - William Taylor

Ray please excuse us for all this toing and froing.

But bearing in mind Monica's great find placing William Taylor in Glasgow aged 19 on the 1871 with a birth place of Kirkintilloch, Stirlingshire, I wondered if the same county was recorded as his place of birth on 1861.
There is a William Taylor with a birth year of 1853 living at the East District of Cadder, Lanarkshire with a birthplace Stirlingshire.  Kirkintilloch is approx. 3 miles east of the town of Cadder according to my G**ggle maps.
I don't have free access to that Census . Maybe you should take a look Ray.

Looby

[loobylooayr]

Sorry meant to give this link - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VBWT-GZH

[loobylooayr]

Oh dear, sorry
Ignore that William Taylor of Cadder . It's not him

[Rayjamgor]

Honestly dont know where to start , a massive thanks to looby ,monica (again you helped in my Gordon search too) and jen. This William guy is a mystery 
 I dont know where the Dunlop middle name came from as my Grandads brothers had Miller and the Helen had McMillan as middle name. I never heard my mother talk about the Taylor side apart from her gran Agnes , Williams wife as a wee woman with grey hair and always dressed in black.
  apologies for not replying sooner .Raymie

[Rayjamgor]

Ive gota family of Joseph Taylor on 1851 census  living in Kilsyth just a stones throw away from Kirkintilloch and thats the registration district for williams birth in 1850  on Ancestry . on williams cert his father is a cotton weaver and this Joseph is a cotton weaver too , coincidence ? 1851 census joseph 38 is living with  his parents and 3 sons 18,16 and 10 but no wife , then in 1861 joseph is 47 married to mary ann 33  and no kids but same house .
 possible he fathered william as he was widowed and catherine then married angus carrie in 1856 ?
 im getting creative too  raymie