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Re: Arran
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 11:46 BST (UK) »
Ahh - the feudal system, which operated in Scotland till 2004.

A long story but short story is - a form of land tenure whereby an estate owner ['feudal superior'] grants a perpetual right to a tenement of land, with or without house, to someone [the 'feuar'] in return for originally military service later commuted to a financial payment ['feu duty']. The superior could retain certain rights if he wished eg type of building, mineral rights underneath the soil, maintenance of a common area & these were detailed in a [chronological order of historical terms] Feu Charter, Feu Contract or Feu Disposition. Up to a certain date the superior had to be informed of change of ownership whether it was by inheritance or purchase but this was mainly to keep track of who was due to pay the annual money. No new feus could be created after 2004 - Scotland retaining the feudal system for centuries longer than any other European country. Apart from leases all new land tenure is now outright, like English freehold.

A comparison to English land tenure could be called a perpetual lease.   

That's a very simple overview which I & others here could expand on at length  ;D. There's a bit here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_property_law
but try an online search too.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Arran
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 12:10 BST (UK) »
Dark ages! OK that sounds as I had thought. Thanks again

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Re: Arran
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 15:15 BST (UK) »
I now have the marriage certificate that confirms the names you found.

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« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 18 September 18 16:07 BST (UK) »
Fantastic - so you think that is your relly? If you know she has died we can mention her name here.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Arran
« Reply #31 on: Friday 23 November 18 17:40 GMT (UK) »
There is a Facebook page: Whiting Bay Memories. Maybe if you joined you can ask about the house?

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« Reply #32 on: Monday 26 November 18 09:12 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the info. I'll check it out although I'm not on Facebook.