John Smith marriage and burial help please

[wrjones]

Yes I've seen that entry but the age is out?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[weenie]

on ancestry its transcribed wrong on FindMyPast its age 16 birth 1835 ?

weenie

[wrjones]

Yes the birth could be c 1835,the age on the entry is marked.Of course there will be no entry in 1841,the entire Census for the Wrexham area,apart from a small part of  Wrexham Town,is lost.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[weenie]

Really William, i didnt know that at all? possibly why i couldnt find one.

i think i may have found a baptism too same year and kingsmill to samuel and sarah, so just tryinng that line first before i do any concrete adding.

Weenie

[wrjones]

Living at Pentre Abenbury Fechan,given as Flintshire in 1851 are;

Samuel Smith,born c 1804,Holt Denbighshire.
Sarah Smith, born c 1805,Plymouth Devonshire.
Edward Smith,born c 1837 Wrexham Denbighshire.
Christiana Smith,born c 1840,Wrexham Denbighshire.
Harriet Smith,born c 1843,Wrexham Denbighshire.
Hannah Smith,born c 1848,Wrexham Denbighshire.
HO107/2503/841/16.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[wrjones]

In 1861 Samuel and Sarah Smith are again living in Abenbury Fechan;
RG09/4284/4/1.

On the next page are to be found John and Elizabeth Smith!

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[weenie]

Thankyou William, i did go down the route of thinking it was them, checked out the baptisms on FindMyPast, all match, but harrriets doesnt seem to be there, christiana died in 1854 and is buried at Brymbo, but Wrexham on the image.

seems i have now found the correct parentage and now can try to go further, still however dont have a marriage that fits , the one i have from Whitechurch however has samuel as the father, but the age is 37 and that just does not fit, his father would be too young to have him... and he is down as widow

many thanks for the help

weenie

[wrjones]

I'm a bit suspicous of Sarah's birthplace but unfortunately we only see her in 1851 and 1861?You have to remember that events at Wrexham are given as Brymbo on FYP.

Allowing for that there is an interesting marriage of a Samuel Smith and a Sarah Thelwell at Brymbo in 1828.

Returning to Sarah I'm wondering whether the entries should in fact read Poolmouth Denbighshire which is a recognizable place in the area to me?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[weenie]

i thought of that birth, but on looking closely on the image of 61 census , it does look like, devonshire plymouth to me attached a snippett

Thought I would try the grandchildren line too but samuel is proving to be a invisable one too.....these darn smith and jones'

Weenie