McQueen Brick Wall

[jamcat95]

Hi
I have hit a brick wall with my McQueen family. I wonder if anyone has any ideas where to look for their parents. I have kept the information simple so as not to get too complicated.

John McQueen b. Edinburgh around 1814 and died in Glasgow 1882
Margaret Rankin b. Edinburgh around 1812 and died in Glasgow 1888

According to John’s death certificate his parents’ names were John McQueen (Seaman) and Catherine Ross.
According to Margaret’s death certificate her parents’ names were William Rankin (Baker) and Catherine Shaw.

They are present in the 1841 census and other censuses in Glasgow Barony. John was a bricklayer.

I have found what could be their parents but it is only guess work. I have found no certain evidence. They did though have a daughter Margaret born 1833 in Edinburgh and a son John born 1835 in I believe to be Liverpool.

Thank you.

Ian.

[MonicaL]

Hi Ian

Indeed, hard to see anything much on parents for them both so far 

Is this John and Margaret's family here https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SRFM-V8B

I see from someone else's research that they have linked your John born c. 1814 to a potential brother Joseph McQueen, son of a John McQueen and a Catherine Neilson (not Ross as you had), also born in Edinburgh around the time of your John https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT56-5RH

This family in 1851:

Joseph Mcqueen 36 Cabinet Maker b. Edinburgh
Margaret Mcqueen 29 b. England
Theadore Mcqueen 9 b. Glasgow
Joseph Mcqueen 2 b. England

Address: 9 Dean Street, Glasgow

There are a couple of baby births and deaths on the birth days in Edinburgh with father showing as John McQueen, also in the right time frame: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTNF-4QP and https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTNN-HH4

Monica

[MonicaL]

Although the transcript above shows Joseph's wife as a Margaret, wife looks to have been a Mary Jones? Their marriage/banns here, just before the 1841 census, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTTX-N32

They show in 1841 living at Parliamentary Road, which I found promising given that this is also where your John was living in 1841.

Joseph Mcqueen 25 cabinet maker b. Scotland
Mary Mcqueen 20 b. England.

Joseph's family in England by the time of the 1861 census, in the town of Burslem, Staffs. Mary shows as living with her mother and a widow by now, although not by long. Youngest child is only 6 months old. Last child I can see born to them in Scotland was Thomas b. 1855 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQFS-H96

Monica

[MonicaL]

  Equally tricky seems to be Margaret Rankin's side.

There is William Rankine, a baker by occupation b. Midlothian and aged 75. He shows at the  Edinburgh City Workhouse, New Greyfriars.

Aged 75 in 1841, with the recommended rounding down of years for those over 15 years old, means that this William could have been aged anywhere from 75-79.

Monica

[jamcat95]

Thank you Monica. You have been busy.

The research with Catherine Nielson is probably mine. I put her in hoping to get some attention. I thought that maybe Catherine Ross had died and John had re-married.

I had not seen those baby births on Familysearch. I will check those out. Thank you.

I had also seen a Joseph on Parliamentary Road. I will look into Mary Jones too. Thank you.

I had found a William Rankine, a baker in the 1851 census from Dunbarton aged 54 living in Dunbarton. But not one living in Edinburgh. I will look into that too.

Thank you for your help. It is really helpful to get new angles to look at.

Ian

[jamcat95]

Is this John and Margaret's family here https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SRFM-V8B

Yes, this is the family. I had seen this tree before and had decided that the name of the mother Dick is not right.

Ian

[jamcat95]

  Equally tricky seems to be Margaret Rankin's side.

There is William Rankine, a baker by occupation b. Midlothian and aged 75. He shows at the  Edinburgh City Workhouse, New Greyfriars.

Aged 75 in 1841, with the recommended rounding down of years for those over 15 years old, means that this William could have been aged anywhere from 75-79.

Monica

Hi Monica
I'm sorry but I cannot locate this William on Ancestry or Familysearch or Scotlandspeople. Can you give me link please.

Ian

[tidybooks]

Is this John and Margaret's family here https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SRFM-V8B

Yes, this is the family. I had seen this tree before and had decided that the name of the mother Dick is not right.

Ian

Hi Ian,

Got me a bit confused there, Ian. I followed Monica's link, and cannot see a mother called Dick.

Also cannot find the William Rankin/Catherine Shaw marriage on LDS for having a Margaret Rankin in 1813. I found a William Rankin/Catherine Shaw marriage but much later had 4 children after 1856, so obviously not the correct couple.

There is a tree on Ancestry, by bob the bodybuilder, which has a tree including the William Rankin and Catherine Shaw above, is that tree connected to you?

Tom

[jamcat95]

Got me a bit confused there, Ian. I followed Monica's link, and cannot see a mother called Dick.

There is a tree on Ancestry, by bob the bodybuilder, which has a tree including the William Rankin and Catherine Shaw above, is that tree connected to you?

Tom

Hi Tom
Thank you for looking.....
If you click on John's name in that tree, Dick is the surname of his mother.

The tree on Ancestry is mine


Ian