Pittington births - New Pittington

[michelledennis]

Hello, I have the birth certificate of my gg grandfather John LUKE who was born in New Pittington (illegitimate daughter of Jane LUKE) on 7 July 1850.

On the certificate in the when and where born column it lists what appears to be four initials before the words 'New Pittington'.  They appear to be F E A M. I'm sure the last two A M are correct but very unsure about the first two.

Can anyone tell me what this may mean?  As it was an illegitimate birth, could it be a workhouse, or unwed mothers home, or a charity organisation? I would love to solve the mystery.

cheers

Michelle Dennis, Australia

[candleflame]

Morning
Any chance of a picture of the relevant column? ( You are allowed to post pics of parts of a cert to help, but not to post a pic of the whole cert.)

[michelledennis]

Morning Candleflame,

Here is a picture of that part of the certificate...


At first I wondered if it was a time of day i.e. am in the morning, but I wonder if it is an abbreviation for a building/place, etc

Thanks for your help

Michelle

[candleflame]

Hmmm not that clear a certificate !! Do you have any other address entries either elsewhere on the certificate or on eg censuses such as 1851 or even the 1841 if you have the mum's address or place of birth ? I'm wondering if its something Hall but the only 'Halls' I can think of are Elemore Hall (recently a former Residential school) or Hallgarth Manor ( now a posh hotel). I'll have a look at the 1851 and see if anything springs to mind. We all like a challenge

[candleflame]

Yes the 1851 has him as born Durham Pittington with Hallgarth written underneath and whilst that could be said to belong to the next entry below, I'd say it belonged to John's. Broomside Lane is the road along to Pittington. you can still view it on Google street maps . If you type in 'Broomside Lane Belmont' then follow the road east, you'll see it becomes Pittington Lane and leads to Low and High Pittington and Hallgarth. (I havent posted a direct weblink as last time I did that I was told it didn't work!!)

Durham Records Online have a baptism of a John Luke in Pittington in 1850 which might be your John. I don't have any credits for DRO at the moment so I can't look that one up for you. http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/SearchResults.php

[JayG]

It's the time he was born which usually indicates a multiple birth.

It reads

Seventh
July 1850
H M (hours and minutes)
7.8 AM
New Pittington
Pittington

John's GRO ref is 24 95, but there isn't another Luke with the same ref.  However there is Judith Luke in the same quarter with the ref 24 96, but she appears on the 1851 census as the daughter of a John and Sarah.

Jay

[JayG]

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Durham Records Online have a baptism of a John Luke in Pittington in 1850 which might be your John. I don't have any credits for DRO at the moment so I can't look that one up for you. http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/SearchResults.php

According to this thread the baptism is for John Luke son of Ann.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=682759.msg5271994#msg5271994

Jay

[barryd]

Judith Luke is on the census and baptized out of Cassop/Cassop Collierey. I think we can eliminate her as being a twin to John. Cassop is in the parish of Kelloe St. Helen. However is looks like a multiple birth for John but I cannot find any evidence to prove that.

[michelledennis]

Thanks everyone - I'll keep looking for a  multiple birth.
Can't find his baptism though. He was definitely the son of Jane (Jenny) LUKE (illegitimate).

cheers

Michelle