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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #117 on: Saturday 10 May 14 07:38 BST (UK) »

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You need to read this to learn a good deal more about Vivian MCMAHON ::) .

He changed his name while living with the RYAN family to Michael RYAN and was with them until he was about 15. He then began his travels as per the previous lengthy newspaper article  about him under his correct name.

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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #118 on: Saturday 10 May 14 07:59 BST (UK) »

The 1934 obituary of John RYAN of Rockton makes no mention of his foster son among children.
 
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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #119 on: Saturday 10 May 14 08:05 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Michael Ryan was listed a pupil at the Peak Crossing State School 1910.

Gerry

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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #120 on: Saturday 10 May 14 08:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue and Gerry

I never found that article in my searches - fascinating!

IN light of the article - Do you think its worth getting the mothers death certificate?

That would be two of the four childrens adoptive parents found.

Much appreciated
McGaveston - Dublin-Ireland, France, New Zealand
White - Shalden, Alton, Chawton-Hampshire
O'Donnell - New Zealand, Co Down-Northern Ireland, USA
Franklin/Fraenkel - New Zealand, Prussia
Day - Echuca, Tongala, London, Fairford-Gloucestershire
Clark/McGraw - New Zealand, Ireland, England
McMahon -Ipswich-QLD, Kiladysart-Co Clare
Smith - Ipswich, Pine Mountain, Redbank-QLD, Co Westmeath, Co Cavan-Ireland
McGuire - Redbank - QLD, Co Westmeath-Ireland
Culhane - Queensland, Ardlaghan - Co Limerick


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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #121 on: Saturday 10 May 14 08:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue and Gerry

I never found that article in my searches - fascinating!

IN light of the article - Do you think its worth getting the mothers death certificate?

That would be two of the four childrens adoptive parents found.

Much appreciated

It's a difficult one ::)
As I say, there was no mention of the boy in John's obituary and it may be the case that Bridget also does not claim him in 1956.
Too hard for me to advise!
Sue
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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #122 on: Sunday 11 May 14 03:38 BST (UK) »
Ive got some other certificates ordered over a week ago that havent turned up so will wait for those to arrive then order this one. Sadly these are the postal kind and not the instant download type.

If Vivian McMahon returned home and there is no trace of him in the various states death databases then he may have gone back overseas leaving his wife behind. I had hoped that he would have been buried with his wife.

The article which referred to Vivian McMahon says he was adopted when he was 2-3 years old. Am I to assume that Agnes may have had for for that time or did they have orphanages during that period?

My next steps are to find Ellen May McMahon and William Frederick McMahons adoptive parents.

Thanks again!
McGaveston - Dublin-Ireland, France, New Zealand
White - Shalden, Alton, Chawton-Hampshire
O'Donnell - New Zealand, Co Down-Northern Ireland, USA
Franklin/Fraenkel - New Zealand, Prussia
Day - Echuca, Tongala, London, Fairford-Gloucestershire
Clark/McGraw - New Zealand, Ireland, England
McMahon -Ipswich-QLD, Kiladysart-Co Clare
Smith - Ipswich, Pine Mountain, Redbank-QLD, Co Westmeath, Co Cavan-Ireland
McGuire - Redbank - QLD, Co Westmeath-Ireland
Culhane - Queensland, Ardlaghan - Co Limerick

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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #123 on: Sunday 11 May 14 07:49 BST (UK) »
Could his (Vivian) death have been registered under his adoptive name of Michael Ryan?

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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #124 on: Sunday 11 May 14 08:09 BST (UK) »
Not that I could find in QLD. I havent checked the other states though.
McGaveston - Dublin-Ireland, France, New Zealand
White - Shalden, Alton, Chawton-Hampshire
O'Donnell - New Zealand, Co Down-Northern Ireland, USA
Franklin/Fraenkel - New Zealand, Prussia
Day - Echuca, Tongala, London, Fairford-Gloucestershire
Clark/McGraw - New Zealand, Ireland, England
McMahon -Ipswich-QLD, Kiladysart-Co Clare
Smith - Ipswich, Pine Mountain, Redbank-QLD, Co Westmeath, Co Cavan-Ireland
McGuire - Redbank - QLD, Co Westmeath-Ireland
Culhane - Queensland, Ardlaghan - Co Limerick

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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #125 on: Sunday 11 May 14 08:22 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Vivian was found on the 1958 Commonwealth Electoral Roll.  This was an era when there were both the Commonwealth and State Electoral Rolls and the State Rolls which ended some time in the 1960s I think were annotated by an Electoral Office Official when someone didn't vote, or died etc. 

I might be going to the Qld State archives this week and if I do I'll have a check on the State Rolls for 1958 onwards to see if Vivian is on the roll and maybe with annotations.

I'll also look at the Peak Downs School Index.

Gerry

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