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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 20 April 14 12:43 BST (UK) »
A possibility:
National Archives of Australia - WWI attestation papers 1915 for John James McMahon b.c. 1886 Aramac, NOK Miss Agnes Mary McMahon, sister, Rockhampton.
Qld Historical Births - 1886   C27   John James   McMahon   F: John James  M: Mary McMahon
and also:  1884   C25   Agnes Mary   McMahon   F: John James  M: Mary McMahon

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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 20 April 14 13:33 BST (UK) »
Vivian told a few porkies... 9yrs younger & an alias ;D

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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 20 April 14 13:40 BST (UK) »
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I think the 1951 death William Frederick McMahon is your line as Mrs M. McMahon and Mrs R.J. Bright mentioned.
William Frederick McMahon funeral notice Courier Mail 13 Mar 1951 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/50103372
McMAHON.—The Relatives and Friends  of Mrs M. McMahon, and Billy, Mr. and Mrs. R. J. Bright and Family, are invited to attend the Funeral of her beloved Husband, their Father. Father-in-law. and Grandfather, William Frederick McMahon. of 21 Bank Rd. Graceville to move from Alex. Gow's Funeral Chapel, Petrie Bight, Tomorrow (Wednesday) Afternoon, at 2 o'clock, for the Crematorium, Mt. Thompson. Service 1.45 p.m.

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Im not sure this is the right person. The QL BDM gives me 1951   C1235   William Frederick   McMahon   -    Mother: Agnes Maria McMahon

So we have the middle name Maria which seperates the women. Im guessing this also rules out Millicent Fullelove as his spouse - marriage 1925?
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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 20 April 14 13:46 BST (UK) »
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1899 Kevin Hamilton McMahon born in Lady Bowen Hospital, Brisbane,
1901 Ellen May McMahon in Pine St North Ipswich,
1903 William Frederick McMahon in Brisbane Street, Ipswich,
1905 Vivian Promethues McMahon in Brisbane Street, Ipswich
1911 in Rockhampton, Queensland she had Eileen McMahon who I think died after 7 months.

Prefix B = Brisbane event   C = Country event

Birth
1896/B58844
McMAHON William Wallace    Mother Agnes McMAHON
Possible death
1897/B30119
McMAHON William Wyllie  Mother Agnes McMAHON
Born Queensland aged 1 year

Birth
1899/B64879
McMAHON Kevin Hamilton   Mother Agnes McMAHON
Death
1969/B9611
McMAHON Kevin Hamilton  Mother Agnes McMAHON

Birth
1901/C5718
McMAHON Ellen May   Mother Agnes McMAHON
Died 1947 as Ellen May SMITH. [Posted by Wivenhoe]

1903/C5246
McMAHON William Frederick   Mother Agnes McMAHON
Possible death
1951/C1235
McMAHON William Frederick  Mother Agnes Maria McMAHON

1905/C5685
McMAHON Vivian Promethues  Agnes McMAHON

Perhaps the birth of this child was not registered and is may not be your Agnes and there was already a son Wm. F.  Perhaps she called the earlier Wm by his second given name Frederick.
Death
1910/C3060
McMAHON William   Mother Agnes McMAHON
Born Queensland aged 6 months.

Birth
1911/C10086
McMAHON Eileen  Mother Agnes McMAHON
Death
1911/C3661
McMAHON Eileen  Mother Agnes McMAHON
Born Queensland aged 7 months.

Birth
1884/C25
McMAHON Agnes Mary 
Father John James  Mother Mary McMAHON

Marriage
1913/C3065
TUSTAIN Frederick Thomas
McMAHON Agnes Mary Francis

This couple on the electoral roll at Rockhampton from 1913 until his death in 1922.

Birth
1914/C11700
TUSTAIN Frederick William
Father Frederick Thomas  Mother Agnes Mary Francis McMAHON

Australian Electoral Roll
1913
TUSTAIN Frederick Thomas  Cnr Alma & Stanley Street, Rockhampton  Labourer

1919
TUSTAIN Agnes Mary Frances  267 Alma Street, Rockhampton  Dressmaker

Death - Haven't seen the F prefix before.
1922/F8911
TUSTAIN Frederick Thomas
Father William Mother Elizabeth MATHEWS

1936
TUSTAIN Agnes Mary Frances  336 Bolstover Road  Rockhampton  HD
TUSTAIN Frederick William 336  Bostover Road  Rockhampton  Labourer

1937, 1943
TUSTAIN Agnes Mary Frances 281 East Street, Rockhampton  HD

1943 - unable to bring up image.  Ancestry is not functioning well for me tonight.
TUSTAIN Frederick William
TUSTAIN Madge

Death
1970/C7449
TUSTAIN Agnes Mary Frances
Father John James  Mother Mary McMAHON

South Rockhampton Cemetery

SRC TUSTAIN Kelsen 10 months M Sunday, 1 February 1920 RC 33X 4595 Gastro enteritis

North Rockhampton Cemetery
TUSTAIN Agnes Mary Frances F 86 Sunday, 29 November 1970 Monday, 30 November 1970 RC C L 56
TUSTAIN Frederick William (ASHES) M 85 Thursday, 22 July 1999 Saturday, 14 August 1999 28 4 36
TUSTAIN Madge F 83 Sunday, 11 August 2002 Wednesday, 14 August 2002 CATHOLIC 28 4 36

All very speculative and it was the mentions of Rockhampton that made me wonder about this Agnes.

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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 20 April 14 13:58 BST (UK) »
There is a family tree on Ancestry which indicates that Kevin was adopted at birth by William and Margaret CREECH and changed his surname back to McMAHON when he was about 21.

Did Agnes raise any of the children?  They certainly knew she was their mother.

Cando, 'F' stands for WW1 deaths and most in Queensland were registered in 1922.

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=6040976

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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 20 April 14 16:03 BST (UK) »
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I think the 1951 death William Frederick McMahon is your line as Mrs M. McMahon and Mrs R.J. Bright mentioned.
William Frederick McMahon funeral notice Courier Mail 13 Mar 1951 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/50103372
McMAHON.—The Relatives and Friends  of Mrs M. McMahon, and Billy, Mr. and Mrs. R. J. Bright and Family, are invited to attend the Funeral of her beloved Husband, their Father. Father-in-law. and Grandfather, William Frederick McMahon. of 21 Bank Rd. Graceville to move from Alex. Gow's Funeral Chapel, Petrie Bight, Tomorrow (Wednesday) Afternoon, at 2 o'clock, for the Crematorium, Mt. Thompson. Service 1.45 p.m.

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Im not sure this is the right person. The QL BDM gives me 1951   C1235   William Frederick   McMahon   -    Mother: Agnes Maria McMahon

So we have the middle name Maria which seperates the women. Im guessing this also rules out Millicent Fullelove as his spouse - marriage 1925?

Allow me to explain the connection:
Mrs BRIGHT is Vivian McMahon's niece (1953 article http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/118400798)
Vivian's brother is named as W.F. McMahon, so this must be William Frederick.
Mrs BRIGHT is also named in the 13/3/1951 funeral notice of William Frederick McMahon (of Bank Road Graceville), so this must be William's only daughter Gloria Felicity BRIGHT (see engagement/marriage link below) and William Frederick McMahon's wife is named as Mrs M. McMahon (so this must be Millicent Fullelove who he married on 29/6/1925)

BRIGHT-McMAHON engagement 1946 - http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/98380896
Gloria Felicity McMahon, only daughter of Mr & Mrs W.F. McMahon of Bank Road Graceville, to Raymond Joseph BRIGHT, only son of Mr & Mrs H. Bright ...
Also 'Bank Road Graceville' in both the engagement and funeral notice indicates this is the same man.

BRIGHT-McMAHON marriage 1947 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/49660490
"with Glenda FALLELOVE as flower girl" (so again a connection to Millicent)

Therefore Agnes Maria McMahon looks like your line. As the funeral notice is 2 days after this death.
Death: 11/3/1951 C1235 William Frederick McMahon; Father -; Mother- Agnes Maria McMahon   

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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #34 on: Monday 21 April 14 02:07 BST (UK) »
There is a family tree on Ancestry which indicates that Kevin was adopted at birth by William and Margaret CREECH and changed his surname back to McMAHON when he was about 21.

Did Agnes raise any of the children?  They certainly knew she was their mother.

Cando, 'F' stands for WW1 deaths and most in Queensland were registered in 1922.

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=6040976

Debra  :)

Hi Dundee

I just found the info on ancestry - thats the first Ive heard of an adoption! Kevin would have one of two younger males in the household along with William (snr) and 6 sisters.

I dont know if she did raise any of the children. If she was working as a female servant I doubt she would have been able to hold down a job without help.
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Re: Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland
« Reply #35 on: Monday 21 April 14 02:10 BST (UK) »
A fascinating story about Vivian McMahon. Me thinks he could well  be prone to good story telling... ;D.

Engagement notice SMH 30 Aug1952
"McMAHON—HULME-MOIR The Engagement is announced of Louisa Beryl only daughter of Mrs V B Hulme-Moir, of Willoughby, to Vivian McMahon, in Korea, younger son of the late Mr and Mrs McMahon, of Queensland."  http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yye/
Marriage must not have taken place as Louisa Beryl Hulme-Moir died Sept 1989
http://www.heavenaddress.com/Louisa-Beryl-Hulme-Moir/130099/

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Interesting - so he was in the Koran war under an alias probably because of his age then only lasted a month. Perhaps the shame of it killed off his marriage plans.
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Smith - Ipswich, Pine Mountain, Redbank-QLD, Co Westmeath, Co Cavan-Ireland
McGuire - Redbank - QLD, Co Westmeath-Ireland
Culhane - Queensland, Ardlaghan - Co Limerick