Agnes McMahon in Aramac, Ipsiwch and Rockhampton, Queensland

[Revolution]

I havent ruled our Agnes Mary McMahon just yet.

If its plausible that she gave birth to 4-5 kids with no father its also plausible (although unlikely) she could have been a 13 year old giving birth.

Were all QLD births registered?

The 1884 Agnes and the 1887 Agnes will be the next certificates to be ordered.  It will take a while for me to get them.

The 1894 and 1897 Agnes options may help determine if the Rockhampton Agnes is a different person.

Any other Agnes to pursue? What about the one born in Victoria?

[Revolution]

This is the National Hotel, Petries Bight in 1890 where the mother listed her residence at the time of the birth of William Wylie McMahon

http://www.yourbrisbanepastandpresent.com/2010/02/national-hotel.html

From Merlins link this Agnes was born in 1850.

[Jennaya]

This is an impressive building!!

[cando]

Only really two possibilities...well in my opinion .....your mention of Rockhampton may have created a red herring

Prefix B = Brisbane event   C = Country event

Birth
1884/C25
McMAHON Agnes Mary
Father John James  Mother Mary McMAHON

Marriage
1913/C3065
TUSTAIN Frederick Thomas
McMAHON Agnes Mary Francis

Death
1970/C7449
TUSTAIN Agnes Mary Frances
Father John James  Mother Mary McMAHON

South Rockhampton Cemetery
SRC TUSTAIN Kelsen 10 months M Sunday, 1 February 1920 RC 33X 4595 Gastro enteritis

North Rockhampton Cemetery
TUSTAIN Agnes Mary Frances F 86 Sunday, 29 November 1970 Monday, 30 November 1970 RC C L 56
TUSTAIN Frederick William (ASHES) M 85 Thursday, 22 July 1999 Saturday, 14 August 1999 28 4 36
TUSTAIN Madge F 83 Sunday, 11 August 2002 Wednesday, 14 August 2002 CATHOLIC 28 4 36

OR

An online tree states that the parents of Maria Agnes McMAHON were married at Amarac however they did not have a son John James.  Mother Ellen DWYER died in 1884 and Michael remarried in 1900 to Agnes Mary HOWARD.

Electoral Roll
1903  Capricornia/Calliope
McMAHON Agnes Mary  Calliope  HD
McMAHON Michael  East Stowe  GladstoneCarpenter

1905
McMAHON Agnes Mary  Targinnie  HD
McMAHON Michael Targinnie  Carpenter

1908
McMAHON Agnes Mary  Glenlyon Street Gladstone  HD
McMAHON Michael  Glenlyon Street  Gladstone  Carpenter

1925
McMAHON Agnes Mary  Auckland Villa, Tank Street, Brisbane  HD
McMAHON Michael  Tank Street, Brisbane  Miner


Birth from 1st marriage
1880/C4129
McMAHON Maria Agnes
Father Michael McMAHON Mother Ellen DWYER
Born 11 Sep 1880
 
Married 3 Sep 1907 and is shown in index as Agnes Monica
1907/C1579
MARTIN George William
McMAHON Agnes Monica


Australian Electoral Roll
1908
MARTIN Agnes Maria  Thomas Street,  Ipswich  HD
MARTIN George William  Thomas Street, Ipswich  Moulder

1913
MARTIN Agnes Moria  Musgrave Street, Bundanba  HD
MARTIN George William  Musgrave Street, Bundanba   Moulder

1925
MARTIN Agnes Maria  Frederick Street, Newtown, Ipswich  HD
MARTIN George William  Frederick Street, Newtown, Ipswich  Ironmoulder

1936, 1937
MARTIN Agnes Maria  Nitram, 21 Frederick Street, Newtown, Ipswich  HD
MARTIN Esme Edith  21 Frederick Street, East Ipswich  Nurse
MARTIN George William Nitram,  21 Frederick Street, Newtown, Ipswich  Iron Moulder

1943, 1954
MARTIN George William  Nitram, 21 Frederick Street, Newtown, Ipswich  Iron Moulder

Deaths
1941/B052778
MARTIN Maria Agnes
Father Michael McMAHON  Mother Ellen DWYER
Died 16 Jul 1941

1959/B033155
MARTIN George William
3 Aug 1959
Father William Mannering  Mother Elizabeth HEWSON

I have probably created more confusion.

All very speculative.

Cando

[cando]

Known as Agnes Maria in the electoral roll and funeral notice.

Courier Mail  17 Jul 1941
MARTIN. — The Relatives and Friends of Mr.G. W. Martin and Family are invited to at tend the Funeral of his beloved Wife and their Mother, Agnes Maria Martin, to leave her late residence, 21 Frederick Street, East Ipswich, at 3.16 This (Thursday) Afternoon, for the Crematorium, Mt. Thompson.

Cando

[Revolution]

Thank you for all the info. There is a LOT to consider!

Next step is for me to find the newspaper marriage notice of my ancestor (I have ordered the certificate):

Thomas Philip Smith
Ellen May McMahon
26 Nov 1919 in Ipswich

• Once I am flush with funds to look at the certificates.
• I will also see if I can find some of the living McMahon children or their descendants and see if they have family stories about the McMahon line.

[cupoflife]

Known as Agnes Maria in the electoral roll and funeral notice.

Courier Mail  17 Jul 1941
MARTIN. — The Relatives and Friends of Mr.G. W. Martin and Family are invited to at tend the Funeral of his beloved Wife and their Mother, Agnes Maria Martin, to leave her late residence, 21 Frederick Street, East Ipswich, at 3.16 This (Thursday) Afternoon, for the Crematorium, Mt. Thompson.

Cando

I would go with this Agnes, one that Cando has as a possibility. This ties in with Reply #34 and the mother named on BDM death of son (11/3/1951 C1235 William Frederick McMahon; Father -; Mother- Agnes Maria McMahon)

Birth: 11/9/1880 C4129 Maria Agnes McMahon; Father - Michael; Mother - Ellen Dwyer
Marriage 3/9/1907 C1579 Agnes Monica McMahon and George William Martin
Death: 16/7/1941 B52778 Maria Agnes Martin; Father-Michael McMahon; Mother-Ellen Dwyer

Notices include other names that may be from this marriage? or husbands previous children?

However the 1942 'In Memoriam' has a notice "Inserted by her loving son Bill"

In Memoriam 16/7/1942 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/113965772
In Memoriam 16/7/1945 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/114607552
In Memoriam16/7/1947 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/118389810
In Memoriam 16/7/1952 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/122034965

Can find at least one child of this marriage:
Birth 16/10/1913 C7194 Esme Elizabeth Martin; Father-George William; Mother-Agnes Morica McMahon
Marriage 23/12/1939 C4600 Esme Elizabeth Martin and Henry Richard Bruce      
Death 18/10/1982 8129 Esme Elizabeth Bruce; Father-George William Martin; Mother-Agnes Maria McMahon   


cheers
cupoflife

[Revolution]

Hi cupoflife and Cando

William Frederick McMahon death certificate named Agnes Maria McMahon as his mother - no father. He was born in Ipswich, Queensland in 1903 so this certainly fits for the right person.

Wouldnt his mothers married name (if she married) be reflected on that document?

[Jennaya]

I think the death certificate asks for mother's maiden name - not 100% sure though.