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Searching for ancestors of Bob Moffat and Annie Caldwell
« on: Friday 25 April 14 02:31 BST (UK) »
 They had two children - Eleanor married Arthur Weckesser or Wickease (not sure)  and Ernest - (died 1959 approx. 38 yrs old) - Annie Caldwell migrated from Northern Ireland - can anyone help?  king regards Jen   :)

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Re: Searching for ancestors of Bob Moffat and Annie Caldwell
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 April 14 03:25 BST (UK) »
Is this the son: Age 34 at death?

Ernest Robert MOFFAT, Service Nr 6557401,
Died 25 Nov 1959 San Diego, (possibly at the Naval Hospital there).
Dob: 14 Feb 1925 Other Country
Buried: 18 Dec 1959: Willamette National Cemetery, Oregon
Occupation: Sonar Chief, US Navy
Died on Active Peacetime Duty
NOK: Father, Robert MOFFATT of 2742 N.E. 61st, Portland Oregon

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Re: Searching for ancestors of Bob Moffat and Annie Caldwell
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 April 14 03:32 BST (UK) »
1930 Census: Portland, Multnomah, Oregon
Head: Robert MOFFATT 41,  marr 27 yrs, b Northern Ireland, Janitor, imm 1927
Wife: Annie MOFFATT 41, marr 27 yrs, b Northern Ireland, imm 1928

Son: Ernest Robt MOFFATT 5, b Canada, imm 1928
Roomer: Leonie VIAL 23, single, b Oregon
Dau: Annie Eleanor MOFFATT 13, b Canada, imm 1928
Roomer: David CAMERON 56, single, b Scotland,
Roomer: Miles F JACOBS 22, single, b Washington

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Re: Searching for ancestors of Bob Moffat and Annie Caldwell
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 April 14 03:53 BST (UK) »
An online tree has the married surname of Ernest's sister as WECKESSER. married 1937. The tree has no info about her parents or brother. It does say she was probably born in Victoria, BC, Canada.

Her parents married in Victoria British Columbia, Canada in 1916:

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/basicSearch
MARRIAGE: 8 Feb 1916, Vesty First Church, Victoria BC
Robert MOFFATT 27, Bachelor, Soldier,  b Ireland, Protestant, resident of Victoria BC
Father: Thomas MOFFATT, Shoemaker and Mother: Catherine LIDDLE
Annie CALDWELL 27, Spinster, Domestic, b Ireland, Protestant, resident of Victoria BC
Father: Robert CALDWELL, Carpenter and Mother: Marey BAIRA
(Note: the database indexes Annie as CADWELL, but the actual marriage cert does say CALDWELL)

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0z10/ 
CEF: Attested 30 Sep 1918
Robert MOFFATT , age 26 yrs & 10mths
Residence: 1052 Mason Street, Victoria BC
Born: Caskel (or Gaskel?), Ulster, Ireland, 15 Jul 1889
NOK: Wife, Annie MOFFATT, same residential address
Occ: Carriage Builder
Currently in the Active Militia as a "Young Citizens Volunteer"
Description:  (follow the link to see the Attestation form)

1921 Census: 2723 Graham St, Ward 2, Victoria City, BC
Head: Robert MOFFATT 32, b Ireland, imm 1913
Wife: Annie MOFFATT 32, b Ireland, imm 1912
Dau: Eleanor MOFFATT 4, b Victoria BC,
Lodger: Esther NUNN 53, b England


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Re: Searching for ancestors of Bob Moffat and Annie Caldwell
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 April 14 04:58 BST (UK) »
These look like good candidates in the 1901 Ireland Census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000606311/
1901: 15 Bellhouse Lane , Coleraine, Londonderry
Head: Catherine MOFFATT 51, widow, b County Derry
Dau: Bella MOFFATT 24, unmarried, b County Derry
Dau: Cassie MOFFATT 22, unmarried, b Coleraine
Dau: Ellen J MOFFATT 14, b Coleraine
Son: Robert MOFFATT 12, b Coleraine
Religion: Presbyterian

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000605613/
1901: 2 Bruces Terrace, Coleraine, Londonderry
Robert CALDWELL 60, widower, Carpenter
Sister: Mary CALDWELL 62, unm, Housekeeper,
Dau: Margaret CALDWELL 18, unm, Laundress,
Son: Samuel CALDWELL 15, Carpenter,
Dau: Annie CALDWELL 12, Scholar
All Born Co. Derry

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Re: Searching for ancestors of Bob Moffat and Annie Caldwell
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 April 14 12:50 BST (UK) »
Arthur & Eleanor Weckesser are on the the 1940 census together in Portland and both are on the Social Security Death Index, which you can find on www.familysearch.org.  There appear to be obituaries available for them for a fee on www.obitsarchive.com

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Re: Searching for ancestors of Bob Moffat and Annie Caldwell
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 March 15 03:13 GMT (UK) »
Eleanor married Arthur Weckesser, third of six children to Wilhelm Weckesser and Ernestine (Meininger) Weckesser.

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Re: Searching for ancestors of Bob Moffat and Annie Caldwell
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 March 15 08:37 GMT (UK) »
If this had been put on the Londonderry or Ireland boards I would have been able to fill in some of the details at the time.

Robert Moffat was born 18 July 1888 Coleraine district (Aghadowey sub-district) according to his birth registration. His parents were Thomas Moffatt & Catherine Riddel. The place of birth on his attestation papers is supposed to be the townland of Cashel which is not far from the town of Coleraine. Robert has quite a few siblings and his brother Thomas had 14 children! (one of them was our neighbour) so there's a large family circle here.

Annie Caldwell was born 5 Jan.1889 Coleraine district, mother's name Baird.

I have more information on both families which I can post if anyone is interested.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Searching for ancestors of Bob Moffat and Annie Caldwell
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 March 15 19:33 GMT (UK) »
I have more information on both families which I can post if anyone is interested.

aghadowey, yes, please do!

I'm curious.  You mention that Robert's birth record indicates that he was born in 1888 (which was the year that my family had provided me prior to my searching), but the scan of the attestation paper states a year of 1889.  Which do you feel has a higher weight of accuracy?