COMPLETED Issac Wain in 1851 & 1861 Census

[timmis1]

Hi

Was wondering if anyone could help me.
I am looking for an Isaac Wain in the 1851 and 61 Census.
He married Pheobe Ellen Ferniough in 1864 at the Church of Earl Sterndale in Derbyshire in Bakewell registration district.
On the marriage certificate it says that he was living in Booth but doesn`t give details of his father, also Pheobe does not give details of her father but that is another story.
I think he may have died in Chapel on le frith in 1865 however I am unsure on this.
He was about 20 when he married so that gives his birth year around 1842-1844

[heywood]

1861 2545/99/7

Isaac Wain, 19 yrs a labourer at Lime Works  b Hartington Upper is lodging with a Bradley couple in Hartington.

Could that be him?

[heywood]

1851 has I Wain 9 yrs with a father Isaac and mother A.

[dcbnwh]

In 1851, Isaac is shown as the grandson of Richard Wain at Booth, Hartington.

Next door, Ellen is the wife of Abraham Naden, with J (could be I) and William Wain as Abraham's step-children. Ellen could be Isaac's mother. She was the wife of John Wain in 1841.

In 1861, Isaac is a lodger in Hartington.

David

[heywood]

Ah!

1851 2151/7/6

Has I Wain son of Isaac as I posted. He is 9 yrs

However
1851 2151/5/2

Has I Wain 8 yrs as David has posted and the Bradleys are also there. That seems a better bet.

Richard Wain' s daughter, Ellen is married to Luke Bradley  she is only 24 yrs so probably John Wain is his father.


Are the witnesses to the marriage any help?

[timmis1]

Hi All

thank you very much for your response would have responded earlier but my computer wouldn't  play ball.
Isaac I feel is not making it easy for my to trace his parentage.
I know dcbn mentions John Wain but on his marriage to Pheobe Ferniough Issac doesn`t say who is father is.
It is interesting to find out that he probably had a brother called William.

[timmis1]

Just picked up on Heywood`s comment about the marriage witnesses.
They were Harriet Wain and Joseph Goodwin

[heywood]

Looking good 

18612545/ 97/ 3

Booth, Hartington Upper Quarter

Richard Wain  head 69 yrs Farmer of 224 acres
 Betty Wain  wife 63 yrs
 Richard Wain son  28 yrs
 Harriet Wain  daughter 20 yrs
 John Wain  son 26 yrs  labourer employed in Lime works
 Harriett Wain daughter in law   23 yrs
 George Wain grandson  1 yr
 Joseph Goodwin grandson  15 yrs General servant

others identified as Farmer's wife, son etc

[jan57]

Harriet  Wain  appears to  be the  H Wain  from 1851   that  you found Heywood