Parish records for Denbighsire? - UPDATE - Welsh readers needed please!

[Cas (stallc)]

Well done Gadget 

[Gadget]

Just to add that that area was in the Corwen Reg District not Llanfyllin:

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/corwen.html


Gadget

[Gadget]

Llangadwaladr parish  was in two parts - one part in the south near Llansilin and one in the North near Glyn Ceiriog. Plas Nantyr was Glyn Ceiriog, which was in Corwen RD:

Civil Registration
When Civil Registration was introduced (on 1 July 1837), the parish of Llansanffraid Glyn Ceiriog was assigned to the No. 2 ("Corwen") sub-district of the Corwen Registration District; which was co-extensive with the Corwen poor law Union.

In the GRO indexes to civil registration, entries for Llansanffraid Glyn Ceiriog are in the format :

    Years 1837 - 1851: Corwen XXVII. nnn
    Years 1851 - 1930: Corwen 11b. nnn

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/DEN/LlansanffraidGlynCeiriog/index.html

Gadget

[Gadget]

North Wales BMD have 2 registrations for an Eleanor Evans in Corwen RD - 1850 and 1851. I think the 1851 one would be the most likely.


Gadget

Added - the 1851 one was Dec - could be that she wasn't registered -not a criminal offence back then.

[Gadget]

Just wondering why you need a birth reg as you have the baptism info. Do you need Ann's maiden name?

[alexscotney]

Wow! Thanks for your work everyone! 

I've tried to get my head around this again and am still a little bit fuzzy. I have previously conducted two searches for Denbighshire for Ellen Evans, one for 1850 and one for 1851, but the GRO has thrown nothing up.

This leads me to think one of the following:

1) The birth was not registered - and so it is Gadget's baptism record which is the key
2) The birth was registered as Eleanor (or some derivation thereof) - supported by the first census entry
3) The birth was registered in a county other than Denbighshire - though for Q1 1851 that only leaves 4 options. I have ordered the certificate for Dolgelly but this now looks unlikely - the others are for Ellin Evans, 2 in Anglesey and one in Carnarvon.

Personally, I'm hoping for 1) but expecting 2) to be the likely outcome.

Thanks once again

Alex

[alexscotney]

Just wondering why you need a birth reg as you have the baptism info. Do you need Ann's maiden name?

I just like having things neat and tidy - I am only missing one birth certificate in my family back to this generation apart from Ellen's. I'm unlikely to get any further back on this branch without a maiden name, so yes, that's why I'm looking for a certificate.

Alex

[Gadget]

I see that they are officially recorded as Llangadwaladr in 1851 rather than Glynceiriog and that Ann(e) was b. Llandrillio. maybe married circa 1848 ish - will have a look at the records

[Gadget]

This could be the marriage:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KC1X-QX3

Ann Jones

Added - not this one!