Author Topic: Burial: All Saints Loughborough on 27 June 1623 - Mary wife of Alexander Culmer  (Read 3014 times)

Offline Aceh

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Thanks Diddy, I'm much obliged.
What this means is that there were probably two Mistresses Culmer. Mary who died in Loughborough and, as the name was rare and still is (other than in East Kent at the time) the widow Culmer who died after Alexander's death and was buried, as was he, at St Martin Orgar in the City of London. Now I need to find the marriage to wife No 2.
LOOKUP COMPLETED.
CUL(L)MER: N, E + SE London 19 cent, E Kent pre 1830, New York post 1850, Vic Australia post 1850
JOHNSON: (dockers/ropemakers) Tower Hamlets pre WWII
OSBORN:(dyers, scourers & gloove cleaners) Hoxton, Islington, Clerkenwell pre 1900
KEWLEY: Bradford 1830-1913, IoM pre 1850
CANNELL: IoM pre 1820
FABB: Cambridge
COLE(S): Warks/Oxon border pre 1830
RILEY: (RC) Bishopsgate area pre 1800
HALE: Brighton pre 1850
KIPPS: E Kent pre 1750
HARDING: MEOT post 1850, Bath Area pre 1850
PARTINGTON Lancs

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don't think you can assume the widow culmer was married to Alexander. IF he had brothers - could be wife of one of them. do you have his baptism? is it:

Alexander  Culmer   9 Feb 1611
Father John  St Peter in Thanet, St Peter 

seems to be earlier Alexander born to same father 6/2/1597  source FindMyPast

if so family search has possible siblings:
Alexander 6/2/1597
Anna  1/4/1604
Mildred  22/3/1606
Martha  27/8/1609
Alexander 9/2/1611
George 13/8/1615
joseph  26/12/1623

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Marriage ?:
John Culmer = Margt. Samson   07 Jul 1600 
Saint Peters Thanet, Kent, England 

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Cooks -(Clackmannanshire); Erskines - (fife); Youngs - (Dunfermline); Charltons - (Tyneside ); Skillings - (N.Norfolk); Legg - (N.Yorks, Tyneside) ; Carter - (Durham); Miller -(suffolk); Pattinson -(Lincs)

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Diddy,

Here is the extract from Merchant Tailor's School alumni records for Alexander:

And from Google Books:
Merchant Taylors’ School (London, England). A register of the scholars admitted into Merchant Taylors’ School, from A.D. 1562 to 1874, compiled from authentic sources and ed. with biographical notices, by the Rev. Charles J[ohn] Robinson, M.A., Rector of West Hackney. vol. 1, 1882. Lewes:  Printed and published for the editor by Farncombe & Co., 1882-1883.
p. 91:  “Alexander Culmer, b. 1 Nov., 1604.”


I have Alexander 1604 as the probable younger son of Richard Culmer c1571 - 1646 and his wife Cecily Sprackling Pre 1580 - 1623 St Peters in Thanet, with siblings:
Richard c1597 - 1662 aka the infamous cleric "Blue Dick".  See entry in DNB.
Elizabeth 1599
Jane 1602, who married Leonard Rowentree c1581-1624? vicar of St Peters in Thanet

The Alexander 6/2/1598 - 27/11/1598 was the only child of John Culmer and his first wife Alice Norwood, who died in 1599. The family you mention (I'm 95% sure but lack absolute written proof, that I descend from George 1615) is by John's 2nd wife Margaret Sampson.

CUL(L)MER: N, E + SE London 19 cent, E Kent pre 1830, New York post 1850, Vic Australia post 1850
JOHNSON: (dockers/ropemakers) Tower Hamlets pre WWII
OSBORN:(dyers, scourers & gloove cleaners) Hoxton, Islington, Clerkenwell pre 1900
KEWLEY: Bradford 1830-1913, IoM pre 1850
CANNELL: IoM pre 1820
FABB: Cambridge
COLE(S): Warks/Oxon border pre 1830
RILEY: (RC) Bishopsgate area pre 1800
HALE: Brighton pre 1850
KIPPS: E Kent pre 1750
HARDING: MEOT post 1850, Bath Area pre 1850
PARTINGTON Lancs


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Did you see the Boyd Inhabitants of London ref 1628 Silver Street?

Profession as minister and merchant tailor and death date for Mary and baptisms of Richard and Mary as you have
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Evening Willsy,

Yes, while looking in Boyd' inhabitants of London at the SOG (for someone else) I came across Alexander and with "minister" and "merchant tailor" I knew this must be the errant curate of Loughborough.
CUL(L)MER: N, E + SE London 19 cent, E Kent pre 1830, New York post 1850, Vic Australia post 1850
JOHNSON: (dockers/ropemakers) Tower Hamlets pre WWII
OSBORN:(dyers, scourers & gloove cleaners) Hoxton, Islington, Clerkenwell pre 1900
KEWLEY: Bradford 1830-1913, IoM pre 1850
CANNELL: IoM pre 1820
FABB: Cambridge
COLE(S): Warks/Oxon border pre 1830
RILEY: (RC) Bishopsgate area pre 1800
HALE: Brighton pre 1850
KIPPS: E Kent pre 1750
HARDING: MEOT post 1850, Bath Area pre 1850
PARTINGTON Lancs