Puttrill/Morris 1837 St. Peter Wisbech marriage lookup please

[Pheno]

Hi, I can find the record of the marriage of Francis Puttrill/Alice Ann Morris on 8 Feb 1837 at St. Peter Wisbech and I believe they were widower and widow.

If anybody has access to the actual record I would dearly love to know her father's name on the entry as she is a brick wall at the moment.

Thanks in advance, Pheno

[bedfordshire boy]

As this was prior to civil registration fathers' names won't be shown. What you'll get are the names of the witnesses.

There's more than one way of skinning a cat though.

The 1851 census shows a son in law ie stepson, in the household, William Morris age 21. The baptism index at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/searchsd.cfm shows a baptism of a William Morris in Wisbech in 1829 son of William and Alice. The IGI at www.familysearch.org has a marriage of William Morris and Alice Driver at Wisbech on 23 Sep 1828. The birth cert of one of the Puttrill children would confirm Alice's maiden name - there's a Francis born 1844 who also appears as one of their children in 1851

[Pheno]

Thanks very much for the info Bedfordshire Boy.  I'll pursue this info.

Pheno

[Selina]

Transcript of the marriage says Francis was a 'bac', Alice Ann Morris was a 'wid'.  Both otp
Witnesses: Fletcher Putterill and Mary Ann Driver

Selina

[Pheno]

Thanks very much for that Selina.

The fact that one of the witnesses was a Mary Ann Driver is good back up for the likliehood that Alice Morris was Alice Ann Driver.

Also have managed to find the 1805 baptism of an Alice Ann Driver in Shoreditch again backing up the 1851 census info that Alice Ann Puttrill was born about 1806 in London.

Thanks for you help.

Pheno

[trish1120]

William MORRIS, Bachelor, Married Alice DRIVER, Spinster, 23 Sept 1828, St Peter, Wisbech
Witnesses, William Colman and Sarah Gillson
She signed with a X.
(Source FreeREG)

Baptisms to WILLIAM/ALICE Morris, St Mary;
WILLIAM, 10 June 1829
ELIZABETH PURL, 14 Sept 1830
Abode North Brink, Fathers Occp Labourer
(Source FreeREG)

Elizabeth Purl Morris may have passed away as she is not with them in 1841;

1841 Census
St Mary Sutton, Lincolnshire
HO107/611/6/St Mary Sutton
Frances PUTRELL, 35, Ag Lab
Alice, 35
John, 3
Thomas, 2
Ann, 9mths
William MORRIS, 11
All down as born in County

You may have all of this by now;
JAMES/ELIZABETH Driver Baptised in London;
JAMES, 28 Feb 1802
JAMES, 8 Aug 1803
ALICE ANN, 23 June 1805
EDWARD, 1 Feb 1807
MARY ANN, 18 Oct 1812
(Source Familysearch.Org)

Which led me to this;
James DRIVER, Bachelor, Married Elizabeth PURL, Spinster,  7 Nov 1796, St Peter, Wisbech
Witnesses, John and Rebecca OSBORN

JAMES/ELIZABETH Driver Baptised same Church;
THOMAS, 8 Oct 1797
SARAH, 9 Sept 1799

So looks like between Sarah 1799 and James 1802 they moved to London.

Trish

[trish1120]

Hust pottering around here;

I found a Tree with JAMES Driver dying 1842 age 67 (birth  1774 to James DRIVER/Ann CORNWALL)
Married to Elizabeth PURL 1796 Wisbech.

They have Children for James/Elizabeth as;
Thomas 1797
Sarah 1799
James 1803
Edward 1807
James 1815
David 1819

The James DRIVER who was Buried 21 Sept 1842, St Peter, Wisbech, was age 78 (birth c 1764)
Abode, Horse Fair Wisbeach St. Peter
(FreeREG)
Also on there is a ELIZABETH Driver Buried same Church, 3 Dec 1856, abode Old Horse Fair, age 90 (birth c 1766)

Now if this James/Elizabeth who Baptised David 1819 she would be age 53
(Davids Baptism is on FreeREG + a James 1815)

THOMAS Driver married Susanna JONES, 25 Nov 1816, St Peter, Wisbech
They Baptised a ELIZABETH PURL Driver same Church, 4 July 1823

[trish1120]

1851 Census
Canal Side
Wisbech, Cambridgeshire
HO107/1766/360/36
Elizabeth DRIVER, 83, Head, Widow, Nurse,  born Walsoken, Norfolk*
Elizabeth, 17, Grand/Daug, Unm, Cotton Winder, born Wisbech

1841 at same address we have;
James Driver, 75, Bricklayer, born in County (1766)
Elizabeth, 70, not born in County (1771 )
Next Door is a Joseph/Sarah Driver
JOSEPH Driver married Sarah GRIFFIN, 30 July 1837, Father JAMES, Occp Bricklayer (FreeREG)

[Pheno]

Thanks very much for all this info Trish - I hadn't got around to doing any research on it myself yesterday so I am very grateful thanks.

There is a Joseph Driver bapt. St. Leonard's Shoreditch 19 Aug 1810 to a James & Elizabeth Driver in Ancestry, London Baptisms (wonder why that is missed off the other list?) so this confirms the Joseph Driver/Sarah Griffin connection too.

Many thanks for taking me back a further couple of generations.

Pheno