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Seeking the sailing date for Lilian Archer to Perth W A
« on: Thursday 05 June 14 15:07 BST (UK) »
Lilian Louisa Archer born 1888 was living in Hull, East Yorkshire in 1911.

She married Frederick Ladbury Bamford 1913 in Perth W. Australia aged about 25 years.

When did she sail to Australia? Were there more family members on board the ship?

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Re: Seeking the sailing date for Lilian Archer to Perth W A
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 June 14 17:34 BST (UK) »
I can't find a sailing date - but I think you have the wrong Lilian Archer?

Births, December qtr 1889
Blything distr (Suffolk)    vol 4a, page 854
Archer, Lilian Louisa

You can find this one in 1911, still in Suffolk with her father.

She was actually born in Knoddishall
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Re: Seeking the sailing date for Lilian Archer to Perth W A
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 June 14 00:08 BST (UK) »
Have not found her arrival, but if this is her, she seems to have married a few times.
Lilian Louise ARCHER BAMFORD SEATON BURSTON 1888/89-1978
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Death 13/9/1978 BURSTON Lilian Louise 89 years Nedlands
Karrakatta Cemetery http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KB00158112

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Re: Seeking the sailing date for Lilian Archer to Perth W A
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 June 14 00:29 BST (UK) »
I can't find a sailing date - but I think you have the wrong Lilian Archer?

Births, December qtr 1889
Blything distr (Suffolk)    vol 4a, page 854
Archer, Lilian Louisa

You can find this one in 1911, still in Suffolk with her father.

She was actually born in Knoddishall

So she emigrated between the 1911 census and her marriage in 1913.  These names are 'ringing bells' with me....

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Re: Seeking the sailing date for Lilian Archer to Perth W A
« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 June 14 00:38 BST (UK) »
Electoral Roll 1916

BAMFORD, Frederick Ladbury. clerk
Gwenyfred Rd South Perth
No others of the surname

1916
BAMFORD  Lilian Louisa HD
9th Avenue, Maylands
No others of the surname

Birth of possible interest.

BAMFORD    Frederick L
PERTH Reg  1951
Yr 1916

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Re: Seeking the sailing date for Lilian Archer to Perth W A
« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 June 14 00:46 BST (UK) »
Sadly Frederick BAMFORD was killed in action in WW1

His file is digitised for reading and it shows he was born in NSW.
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

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Re: Seeking the sailing date for Lilian Archer to Perth W A
« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 June 14 00:48 BST (UK) »
I am sure we have researched Lilian Louise previously....perhaps it was for another chatter. 

There are a number of trees on ancestry.

Muffin41 do you need the research in Australia or just details of her arrival?

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Re: Seeking the sailing date for Lilian Archer to Perth W A
« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 June 14 01:18 BST (UK) »
I initially dismissed this passenger record although the age was right.

Lizzie ARCHER, 23 years and Percy, 1 year, departed London on 8 Dec 1912 on the AUSTRALIND ticketed to Fremantle.

But.....

An online tree shows a Percy BAMFORD born 30 Apr1911 [no place of birth] who died 1996.  Parents are Lilian Louise ARCHER and Frederick Ladbury BAMFORD however they didn't marry in Perth until 1913.

Could this be infant Percy's birth in Jun qtr 1911?

Births Jun 1911
ARCHER Percy     Henley 3a/1053

Percy's WW2 service summary states he was born in Perth in 1911 but no registration on WA birth index.  NOK E
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=765347

His file has been digitised and he was also known as Percy SEATON
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NAAMedia/ShowImage.asp?B=6377666&S=7&T=R
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NAAMedia/ShowImage.asp?B=6377666&S=9&T=R

Marriage
BAMFORD   Percy   
AUSTIN  Elsie M
District Perth  1935  Reg#1180

Australian Electoral Roll
1936
SEATON Percy  Kalamunda  Greengrocer

1937
SEATON Percy  Kalamunda  Greengrocer
SEATON Elsie Mildred  Canning Road, Kalamunda HD

Elsie Mildred SEATON's burial record
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00150869

Percy SEATON's burial record
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00125362

According to his WW1 service file, Lilian's first husband Frederick BAMFORD died at No 8 AGH Fremantle from pneumonia and cardiac failure in Nov 1916.  I note there is a birth registration for a Percy BAMFORD in 1916 on the WA indexes.

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Re: Seeking the sailing date for Lilian Archer to Perth W A
« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 June 14 05:55 BST (UK) »
 
According to his WW1 service file, Lilian's first husband Frederick BAMFORD died at No 8 AGH Fremantle from pneumonia and cardiac failure in Nov 1916.  I note there is a birth registration for a Percy BAMFORD in 1916 on the WA indexes.

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