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Re: James Florence/ Isabella Moir/ Margaret Wright
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 19 May 15 21:11 BST (UK) »
There does seem to be a bit of a mix up with other people's research results. I'd a quick look at the 2 Florence blacksmiths in Peterhead. In 1851 census James' place of birth was Auchterless. James Florence's death certificate states that his father was James Florence, farmer (no mention of him being deceased.) His mother was Isabella Florence m.s. Moir, deceased. John , on the other hand, has his parents as James Florence & Ann Cruickshank. James Florence, the widower of Margaret Wright also has his parents as James Florence & Ann Cruickshank. So John, the blacksmith in Peterhead, was a brother of James, the farmer in Auchterless.
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Re: James Florence/ Isabella Moir/ Margaret Wright
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 19 May 15 21:52 BST (UK) »
I also noticed that James Florence, farmer, was not recorded as deceased on that death record, flst.  Further, as an example of how things get muddled, this 1841 census is from freecen.  Note how it differs from Ancestry's transcription.

1841
Parish 192 Ellon, Aberdeenshire, Carn Leith
John Black 45 Farmer
Elspit Black 40
James Florence 78 – Ancestry transcription = Jannet Florence
Margaret Walker 5
James Willson 20 Ag Lab
John Geddes 20 Ag Lab
James Cruickshank 15 Ag Lab – Ancestry transcription = James Emrcker
John Moir 10 Ag Lab – Ancestry transcription = John Morr
Isbel Clark 20 Servant    - Ancestry transcription = Isabel
All born Aberdeenshire

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Re: James Florence/ Isabella Moir/ Margaret Wright
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 19 May 15 22:13 BST (UK) »
One thing I've noticed is that there are sometimes several families recorded in a census records that don't necessarily live together which does confuse the situation.
Main, Mitchell; Stirlingshire
Drummond; Perth
Florence; Aberdeen

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Re: James Florence/ Isabella Moir/ Margaret Wright
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 19 May 15 22:17 BST (UK) »
Ancestry does have a tendency to do this.  the only solution is to download the original entry from scotlands people


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Re: James Florence/ Isabella Moir/ Margaret Wright
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 19 May 15 22:49 BST (UK) »
You're correct in saying it's always best to view the original documents & not transcriptions. Transcriptions are handy for pointing you in the right direction though. I find that Ancestry's transcriptions are often incorrect & I always submit a correction if I can. Every little helps :)
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Re: James Florence/ Isabella Moir/ Margaret Wright
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 20 May 15 00:50 BST (UK) »
Jim: I'm a Canadian - are you??

In reply to yr last posting - u might be right I just found two James Florences born Auchterless
as follows:
17/04/1781 father James Florence Loggie Old Town Auchterless  173/00 0020 0089
19/07/1783 father James Florence Gordontown Auchterless  173/00 0020 0100

Only birth I found for Margaret WIGHT born July 21, 1776 dau of Peter Wight Tarves Aberdeen
243 00 0010 0295

No marriage found for James Florence & Margaret Wight
Children found for James Florence & Margaret WIGHT as follows:
Leslie August 15, 1810   173 00 0020 0199
Isobel May 19, 1813       173 00 0020 0207
Alexander July 01, 1814  173 00 0020 0210
John April 18, 1816         173 00 0020 0217

Death: Margaret WIGHT wife of Jas Florence Fisherford, Auchterless Sept 25, 1839

!841 census Everton Auchterless for James Florence
James Florence (55)
John     ``   `   (20)
Robert              (15)  couldn`t make out his last name
William             (15)       ``       ``     ``      ``    ``
Isobel Florence  (25)
Isobel Cran       (20)

Death: James Florence widower of Margaret WIGHT  November 2, 1863 Fisherford Auchterless
173 00 0035

MARGARET WRIGHT born April 25, 1789 father John Wright Auchterless  173 00 0020 0120

No marriage found for James Florence & Margaret WRIGHT

Child of Margaret WRIGHT & James Florence (as per certificate)   Mary born August 24, 1809  173 00 0020 0197
her dearh certificate February 24, 1880 New Deer gives her parents names as James Florence
& Margaret WIGHT  225 00 0011

I searched censuses & deaths for Margaret WRIGHT & James Florence to no avail..
Trust u can decipher all of the above.
Rosina


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Re: James Florence/ Isabella Moir/ Margaret Wright
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 20 May 15 14:34 BST (UK) »
Just a quick reminder that when searching, try looking for Florances as well as Florences :)
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Re: James Florence/ Isabella Moir/ Margaret Wright
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 20 May 15 15:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosina, I live in Ontario. I'd be happy to send you my Florence info if you would like it. Just let me know. Regards, Jim
Main, Mitchell; Stirlingshire
Drummond; Perth
Florence; Aberdeen

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Re: James Florence/ Isabella Moir/ Margaret Wright
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 21 May 15 18:34 BST (UK) »
Jim:  I too live in Ontario abt one hr west of Toronto

Re: Florence I have done extensive search, just as a sideline for my niece in England who is
interested in hearing of any descendants of her paternal grandfather George Florence's siblings. I
think she just wants to hear abt him fm anyone who may have some knowledge.
Then I got sidetracked over James Florence/Margaret Wight or Wright as Margaret Wright of
Auchterless was an ancestor of mine (whether Wight/Wright are one & the same remains to be
seen)

Have u been into the website Rogers online Genealogy - maintained by Roger Moffat
http://testing.lisaandroger.com
 they have data on the Florence family back to Andrew Florence abt 1580 of Fyvie    whether all
is confirmed or not I don't know - I just happened across it one day...

Thx for yr offer of sharing yr Florence data -  if u have any data on living descendants of James Florence/Catherine Ann Williams I wld appreciate hearing abt them...
Thx & have a great day
Rosina