florence sophia proudfoot 1893 jumble

[Cas (stallc)]

Hi Rosie, looks likely the stepson is here.

1901 - RG13; Piece: 4653; Folio: 94; Page: 50
Crook and Billy Row, Durham
Registration district:    Auckland

John Proudfoot    53 wid, Westgate, Durham
Minnie Proudfoot 15 dau Crook, Durham
Alfred Perrey    11 visitor b Porkmouth, Hampshire (Portsmouth)

Births Mar 1891   
PERRY    Alfred Edward    Portsea    2b   486
   

[rosie99]

Thanks Cas

I had tried to find him in 1891, hoping he was with his parents but no such luck. I'll keep trying.

Rosie

[wilrob]

yes rosie thats the stepson in durham i was hoping the same that he would be with his parents buts nothing is simple in this tree lol thanks so much x

the lady thats enquiring about it sent me the marriage cert of sara perry and thomas franklin and she defo my sara levi theres not many vocalists called sara levi her first husband perry was also an entertainer ....i have been looking for her first husbands family knowing his father was william perry and also trying to find sara in the 1901 census there was one in a workhouse but i lost it lol x

sara wasnt with her first husband joseph patrick perry in the 1901 census as he is in wales visiting he also died in wales x

[Cas (stallc)]

When was the last census you had Joseph and Sarah together, do you have refs?

Also did they have any children?  With Joseph in Wales in 1901 and there at his death in 1904, the couple were obviously separated.

It seems that you may have a bit of bigamy going on when she married Proudfoot? Maybe that is why she married as Perry to Franklin. There is also a 13 yr age gap.

Why would she have a dau Proudfoot, if you are sure the 1911 census is your Sarah? 

Also maybe Alfred Perry  is not Josephs son but was registered under Perry as she was married.  When did you last have her and her first husband together?

Also marrying as Sarah Florence, and 1901 as Florence, maybe she was covering as knew it was bigamy?

Just a few thoughts.

Cas

[wilrob]

oh deary me there must of been something in the water with the woman of the levi family lol this is what i have
1881 England Census about Patrick Perry
Name:   Patrick Perry
Age:   24
Estimated birth year:   abt 1857
Relationship to Head:   Head
Spouse:   Sarah Perry
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Newcastle, Northumberland, England


Civil Parish:   Lambeth
County/Island:   London
Country:   England
Street address:   166 Stamford St
Marital Status:   Married
Education:

Employment status:

.
Occupation:   Vocal Comedian
Registration district:   Lambeth
Sub-registration district:   Waterloo Road First
ED, institution, or vessel:   3
Neighbors:    View others on page
Piece:   583
Folio:   57
Page Number:   13
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Patrick Perry   24
Sarah Perry   22
Isabella Perry   2
William Edwd. Perry   
James Sullivan   19
Charles Ashill   22

he is using his middle name on this census


Perry, Joseph Patrick in your tree "levi Family Tree"   Remove
1891 England Census about Patrick J Perry
Name:   Patrick J Perry
Age:   35
Estimated birth year:   abt 1856
Relation:   Lodger
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Newcastle Upon Tyne
Civil Parish:   Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish:   St Mary Magdalene
County/Island:   Lancashire
Country:   England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

.
Registration district:   Liverpool
Sub-registration district:   Islington
ED, institution, or vessel:   2
Neighbors:    View others on page
Piece:   2918
Folio:   31
Page Number:   21
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Jane Blacklock   59
Agnes Blacklock   23
George Chalk   24
Wm Blacklock   26
Lily Hozergue   7
Fred W Chalk   1
Patrick J Perry   35
Alfred G Allan   38

so they were last together on the 1881 census and they only married in 1876 there is something i am missing and its looking right me unless as well its all wrong if only i could find sara on the 1891 and 1901 census also going off her sister annie who had an affair whilst married she didnt marry the other man till her husband died x

the children according to the census of joseph p perry and sarah were
Joseph Patrick Perry
1856 – 1904


Isabella Perry
1878 –

William Edward Perry
1880 –


Patrick Joseph Perry
1883 – 1957

Alfred Edward Perry
1891 –

isabella perry seems to have a few children with no father mentioned
John William Perry
1898 –

Alfred Edward Perry
1903 –

George Charles Perry
1905 –

James Stanley Perry
1910

then she married 1914

hope all this you understand x

[Cas (stallc)]

Cannot find a connection to Sarah and 1881 children in 1891, Alfred Edward should be on census as reg first Qtr    Maybe she was living with another and took their name?  Maybe missed or census missing.

Not much help thou

Cas

[wilrob]

i know cas its got my eyes rolling around my head 

[Cas (stallc)]

i know cas its got my eyes rolling around my head 

Ditto 

Patrick Joseph Perry
1883 – 1957  Where was he born?

[wilrob]

i dont have a lot on patrick j perry only that it states liverpool ...i cannot find him either before 1911 but there is a few family trees done on him which i have been trying to check out as the parents are different x