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Henry WITHERS family
« on: Monday 23 June 14 20:03 BST (UK) »
I am looking for the family of Henry WITHERS, Chiswick. In particular, I need the mother of a Mary Ann WITHERS born in Chiswick, Middlesex,  baptized 1842. I cannot find a birth record for her and have found 3 possible mothers for her.
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Re: Henry WITHERS family
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 June 14 20:39 BST (UK) »
There are two Mary Ann Withers registered in Westminster in Q4 1841 and one in London in Q4 1842. Have you seen any of these birth certificates?
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Re: Henry WITHERS family
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 June 14 21:45 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

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I am looking for the family of Henry WITHERS, Chiswick.


Can you include some info re: Henry's birthyear and the names of his parents

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I need the mother of a Mary Ann WITHERS born in Chiswick, Middlesex,  baptized 1842

If you have her baptismal record - it should show parents names

From FS

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5JD-FT1

What name is shown for her father on her marriage cert
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Re: Henry WITHERS family
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 05:24 BST (UK) »
Right one?
Marriage to George James Moss
1856 27 Oct Age: 15
Hoxton St John, England
George James Moss,Minor,Bach,Cordwainer,East Rd, Father George Moss, Cordwainer. Mary Ann Withers, Minor, sp, Chatham Gdns, Father Henry Withers, Printer. Witnessed by George Moss (his Mark James) & Mary Moss

1841 Census
HO107/689/3/Chiswick
Henry Wethers    45, Printer
Kitty Withers    35
Henry Withers    14
George Withers    12
Kitty Withers    10
William Withers    9
MARY Withers    3****

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Re: Henry WITHERS family
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 05:32 BST (UK) »
For those trying to help;

That Mary from 1841 Census may have died or was mis-enumerated with age.

1851 Census
HO107/699/545/15
Henry Withers, 50, Head, Mar, Printer, born Fornham, Hampshire
Catherine Withers,50, Wife, Mar, Laundress
Henry Withers, 25 Son, Unm, Printer
MARY Withers, 10, Daug
William Withers, 16, Son, Errand Boy
James Withers, 8, Son, Scholar
Thomas Withers, 6, Son, Scholar
All but Henry born Chiswick, Middlesex   


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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Henry WITHERS family
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 06:12 BST (UK) »
It is possible Catherine was nee Martin due to their Son George being named George Martin Withers.

Now I may be going crazy but I cant find any Withers Birth Regs fior the Children  in Brentford Reg District (where they are living 1841/1851 Census)
One would think the Children would be Reg in that place.

But I can find Martins;
FEMALE Martin, March 1838
MARY ANN Martin, June 1840
JAMES Martin, June 1843


Must say I am very confused!
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Re: Henry WITHERS family
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 06:23 BST (UK) »
I can find Baptisms though;
HENRY ALEXANDER, 4 Feb 1827
GEORGE MARTIN, 25 Dec 1828
KITTY, 25 Dec 1831
JAMES ABRAHAM, 27 Feb 1842
MARY ANN, 27 Feb 1842
WILLIAM, 27 Feb 1842
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Re: Henry WITHERS family
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 15:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks to all for the responses.
To give more information - I believe Henry was born about 1801. I don't have any other information about him.
As to the Mary Ann Withers baptized with Henry Alexander, etc. She married at 14 to a George James Moss. in 1856. She dies later that year, but had a child, Mary Moss. The father died in 1857 and Catherine Withers raised her. That eliminates that Mary Ann. I had not pursued the possibility of Martin surname... will check on that. I have her marriage cert. to a George Brinkley. She lists her father as Henry, occupation, painter. St. Nicholas Church has her baptized with 3 other Withers children and lists her mother as Mary Ann, this conflicts with Ancestry.com which also has her baptized with 3 other Withers children on the same date, but has Catherine as her mother... That is my conundrum! Thanks, Pat