the surname french

[frenchy126]

the information you have given does ring true, i know henry jones is correct

[Ladyhawk]

Here is the marriage:

17th June 1883 Deptford St Paul

John Thomas French 30 yrs widower Boiler Fitter father William French Undertaker
Emma Levina Jones 20 yrs spinster father Henry Jones Blacksmith

for info. this looks to be John's father William on the 1881 census

8 Hope ST Minster in Sheppey Sheppey Kent England
William French   Head   Widower   age 53 born c1828 Sheerness occ. Undertaker   

[smudwhisk]

Is this the same John French born c1853 Sheerness occ Boiler Mkr?

1881 census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQ42-4N1

I think there is a good chance that is him but I can't find any of those three children after 1881.  He was though a widower on the marriage in 1883.

[frenchy126]

i agree, is there anything on henry jones

[smudwhisk]

for info. this looks to be John's father William on the 1881 census

8 Hope ST Minster in Sheppey Sheppey Kent England
William French   Head   Widower   age 53 born c1828 Sheerness occ. Undertaker

I think his age is probably out though on 1881.  There is a William French with wife Hannah in Sheerness on 1861 and 1871 Census who is a joiner, they have a son John born c1844 with them on 1861.

One of my ancestor's siblings was variously a carpenter/joiner and an undertaker on various records.  However, it means that John was also a little economical with the truth on the census about his age as he's listed as 16 on the 1861 Census .. although the enumerator may have entered it incorrectly.

[smudwhisk]

i agree, is there anything on henry jones

Frenchy, what do you know from your relatives then about Henry Jones since it's not exactly an uncommon name is it.

He's listed as a blacksmith on Emma's marriage entry.  There is an Emma Jones born c1863/4 on the 1871 Census with father Harry and mother Susannah and siblings in Deptford.  He's a blacksmith born Stanwell, Middlesex and mother is from Sheerness.

Edit - interestingly though he's listed as a basket maker on the 1881 Census and no sign of Emma.

[Ladyhawk]

family search has 1863 baptism St Paul Deptford

Emma Lavinia Jones parents Henry & Susannah
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J39W-CRH

1871c https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VBD1-JL1

[smudwhisk]

family search has 1863 baptism St Paul Deptford

Emma Lavinia Jones parents Henry & Susannah
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J39W-CRH

1871c https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VBD1-JL1

If you have an ancestry subscription they have indexed it as Joses.   Only found it from Ladyhawk's post.

[Ladyhawk]

possible St Paul's Deptford 1861 marriage Thomas Henry Jones to Susannah

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVD5-Q2T
(not too sure if the above is the correct marriage as there is a baptism of an
Emma Jones 1863 parents named Thomas Henry & Susannah)

There is this marriage entry in

Lewisham Jun 1858 vol 1d page 888
Henry JONES
Name on same page
Susannah McANALLY

You would a birth certificate of one of the children to confirm their mother's maiden name

other baptisms at St Paul Deptford parents name Henry Jones & Susannah

1865 Naomi Rosina Jones
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JM4Z-N99

1869 Louisa Ann Jones
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLR5-157

1869 Henry Jones
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NYJ9-44D

1871 George Jones
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLRR-8MC

1881c https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQ4G-NQW?cc=1321821