Meagher/Maher, Mullingar, Westmeath

[Lisajb]

New here - trying to trace my husbands tree and getting nowhere fast!

Could anyone help me with this family

Michael Meagher/Maher (the surname seems to vary according to records), born either 1868 (according to 1911 census) or 1877 (according to marriage registration)

1911 census gives him with wife Mary (b 1886) and daughter Mary (who was known as Molly) at 20 Springfield, Mullingar

Michael died in 1951 and his wife and children came over to England.  All but one child who is still living died in England

I have their marriage record - they married 30th April 1907 in the Chapel of Taughmon.  Mary's maiden surname was Gray.  Fathers given as John Maher and Michael Gray.

There were several children of this marriage - I think I may be missing a few but these are the ones I do have.

Mary (Molly) b1909 Mullingar, died 1980
Rose b1911 Mullingar, died 1989
Teresa b1916 Mullingar, died 1962
Michael (Mick) b1918, died 1999
Catherine/Kathleen, b1917-1920 (not quite sure!) cannot turn up a death registration for her but know it was in England
Bridget b1922, died 2003
Christopher b1926, died 2004
Annie (another puzzle, still living, have found her marriage in England, the only birth reg that fits in Ireland gives a birth date of 1930.  I suppose technically possibly although her mother would have been 44 - but the birth reg gives MMN as O'Hara, possibly the child of Michael Meaghers brother, mother died in childbirth - just my random musing there.

And then I'm stuck.  I found a birth reg for a Mary Gray in Mullingar for 1886, but a line was drawn though the box for fathers name. She may well have been illegitimate, but then I'm wondering where Michael Gray came from on her marriage record.  I have found Michael M in the 1911 dog licence register.  Cannot turn either John, Michael M or Michael Gray up in roughly the right place in the 1901 census.  I found a possibility for Michael M in England in 1901, but place of birth is just given as Ireland.

Thanks for listening to my random musings.  If anyone could help I would much appreciate it.  I've spent hours trawling through birth records but have no idea which may be the right one.  I imagine I will be buying quite a few photocopies!

[Sinann]

Welcome to RootsChat
There is a new index which has some of the children a bit more searching need for the rest I guess.
You need to sign in and do the whatits catch thing.
The good thing is it gives dates of birth, not all on the link are yours
http://www.rootschat.com/links/017z1/

[Sinann]

This is interesting the mothers name is O'Harah
Rose Meagher 4 July 1911
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/5b09d51839609

[Sinann]

Michael
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/8633271169423

[Sinann]

Both FamilySearch and Irish Genealogy give two entries for Mary Gray born 1886 Mullingar
The FamilySearch ones are on different pages 268 and 267
Irish Genealogy has two different Group Reg ID numbers (a new way of ordering)
Did you get both of these?

[heywood]

Hello Lisa,
I notice on your tree that you have Michael in Burnley in 1901. I think that one is still there in 1911.

Heywood

[Sinann]

There is a Michael Maher born 1873 in Granard which is one of the Reg Districts for Westmeath.
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/dcb7f910088691

This is the family in 1911, yes?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Mullingar_North_Urban/Springfield_or_Spittlefield__urban_/885520/

[Lisajb]

Hello everyone
Thanks for all your input.

If the Michael Meagher from Burnley was still there in 1911, I think that one cannot be my chap - the Springfield family are definitely the right ones.

Interesting re Rose's MMN being O'Hara - I picked up a baptism record on Ancestry for her which gives father as Michael Meagher and mother Mary Grey.

Roll on lunchtime - more research to do!

Lisa

[Lisajb]

Hi Sinann

I did attempt to order the two 1886 Mary Gray birth records using vol and page numbers, but only one was supplied - they said that one was a duplicate of the other.  This gave her mothers name as Anne Gray, with a line drawn through the box for fathers name.  It may well be her, but begs the question, where did the Michael Gray who's down as her father on the marriage record come from?  Such a lot of puzzles!

My mother in law - Michael's grand daughter, Teresa's child - remembers being taken to Mullingar as a child (she was born in Kidderminster) and staying in the Springfield House.  She said they'd walk to her grandmothers sisters house, but unfortunately cannot remember where that was. 

I'm amazed by whats been found, its been such a help.  Still have a long way to go, but thank you!