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Re: James Henry Steele of Brampton, Cumberland
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 July 14 16:22 BST (UK) »

Possible death:

Alice Steele, aged 29, 4th quarter 1883, Carlisle 10b, 287.

I see that son James Joseph Steel was born in Carlisle in the same quarter of 1883, so possibly Alice died in childbirth  :-\
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Re: James Henry Steele of Brampton, Cumberland
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 10 July 14 17:08 BST (UK) »
thanks guys, this clears up things

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Re: James Henry Steele of Brampton, Cumberland
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 10 July 14 17:18 BST (UK) »
Does Maryport come under the district of Carlisle? Since both Alice and James were born and died there. According to the 1911 census, James Joseph was born in Wetheral, not Carlisle, did births in Wetheral get registered in Carlisle as a district?

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Re: James Henry Steele of Brampton, Cumberland
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 10 July 14 17:24 BST (UK) »
James Henry's daughter Alice M Steele was born in 1878, was her middle name Maud? I have found a December 1878 birth registered in Cockermouth district.

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Re: James Henry Steele of Brampton, Cumberland
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 10 July 14 17:30 BST (UK) »
Does Maryport come under the district of Carlisle?

Maryport was in Cockermouth Registration District.

Wetheral was in Carlisle Registration District.

Does Maryport come under the district of Carlisle? Since both Alice and James were born and died there.

Alice died in Carlisle Registration District and James was born in the same district. Therefore they could not have been living in Maryport at that time, because that was in a different Registration District.
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Re: James Henry Steele of Brampton, Cumberland
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 10 July 14 17:33 BST (UK) »
thank you, I have just noticed something interesting

James Henry Steele died in Gateshead in Durham in 1934 aged 79 years.

There is a death for a Mary Jane Steele in Gateshead in 1895, the age matches the birth for Mary Jane Robson born in 1863, yet in the 1911 census she is still living, is this an error?

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Re: James Henry Steele of Brampton, Cumberland
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 10 July 14 17:36 BST (UK) »
Confusing then that the 1881 census gives the family living in Maryport, yet the births and deaths are registered under a different district, that being Carlisle.  :-\

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Re: James Henry Steele of Brampton, Cumberland
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 10 July 14 17:37 BST (UK) »
There is a death for a Mary Jane Steele in Gateshead in 1895, the age matches the birth for Mary Jane Robson born in 1863, yet in the 1911 census she is still living, is this an error?

Steele is not an uncommon name - the death could be of a completely different person. You would have to get the certificate to find out exactly who it was. Since your James's wife, Mary Jane, is shown as alive in the 1901 and 1911 censuses it isn't very likely to be her  :)

Does Maryport come under the district of Carlisle?

did births in Wetheral get registered in Carlisle as a district?

This list is well worth bookmarking, as it shows which Registration Districts towns and villages were in http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/places/regindex2-1.pdf


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Re: James Henry Steele of Brampton, Cumberland
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 10 July 14 17:38 BST (UK) »
Confusing then that the 1881 census gives the family living in Maryport, yet the births and deaths are registered under a different district, that being Carlisle.  :-\

Presumably between those two dates they had moved from Maryport to Carlisle  :)
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