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Patrick Baggot/Bagot born Galway Ireland in England or USA?
« on: Thursday 10 July 14 21:57 BST (UK) »
Looking for any info on Patrick Baggot(t) or Bagot   b 1875 Kilcooly, Galway, Ireland.

Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881 (F/S)
Patrick Bagot,  birth: 5 April 1879 Kilcooly, Galway, Ireland
Father:    Thomas Bagot
Mother:    Mary Hurly Bagot

Brother of my G Grandmother, Bridget (father Thomas) from marriage cert 1902, St Helens Lancs..who I have all details after marriage.
Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881 (F/S)
Bridget Bagot birth: 7 August 1876 Galway, Ireland
Father:    Thomas Bagot
Mother:    Mary Bagot Hurley

Sister Mary who travelled to Boston USA after 1901, married James J Vahey, died before 1920 have marriage, confirms parents. Have details after marriage.

James J Vahey Born about 1876 Ireland age 32 years  - 2 Academy Hill Road. Painter
Mary Baggott Born about 1884 Ireland. age 24 years  -  15 Elko Street
Marriage date 14 Jun 1908
Marriage place Boston, Massachusetts
Father of groom name James Vahey
Mother of groom name Mary Hughes
Father of bride name Thomas Baggott
Mother of bride name Mary Hurley

1901 - Residents of a house 2 in Kilcooley (Kilcroan, Galway) Ireland
(Kilcooley just off the R364 running southwest out of Balloymoe)

Baggott   Thomas   50  Head  (All Roman Catholic)
Baggott   Bridget   24  Dau   
Baggott   Mary           15  Dau

He is not in household. Do not know anything except his birth/bapt as above.

Could be in England poss St Helens, Lancs were Bridget went and married/died or Boston, USA where Mary went married/died.

Think Thomas had a brother, who has a dau (Bridget) around the time my Bridget was born, in the St Helens area, so could be a poss he may have gone there?

See there is a 1911 census for Patrick Bagot in St Helens Lancs b Galway, have no access to view,  know it cannot be posted. PM appreciated.

Or other?

Any info appreciated

With thanks Cas :)
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Patrick Baggot/Bagot born Galway Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 July 14 22:19 BST (UK) »
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See there is a 1911 census for Patrick Bagot in St Helens Lancs b Galway, have no access to view,

These instructions may help


USING THE FREE 1911 INDEX TO DETERMINE THE CORRECT HOUSEHOLD

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

Once you find a possible match - make a note of the county and district in which the person was living

Return to the index and in PERSONAL DETAILS - just put the surname of the family - nothing else

In LOCATION - Select the county and below it - type in the district

In OTHER MEMBERS OF THE HOUSEHOLD - show the full name of the person you have found on the index

Click SEARCH

The 1911 census is strictly pay per view so you will have to buy credits to view the full entry - the above instructions will only help to possibly show others of the same surname in the same household

You can check  birthplaces for free using GRU

http://www.GenesReunited.co.uk/search.page/index/census_1911
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Re: Patrick Baggot/Bagot born Galway Ireland in England or USA?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 July 14 23:04 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Patrick Baggot/Bagot born Galway Ireland in England or USA?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 July 14 23:05 BST (UK) »
Hello,

there is this chap  1901  3368/ 54/14

22 Boughton, Chester

Patrick Baggott  22  yrs   Bricklayer's labourer b Ireland
Catherine Baggott  21 yrs  b Chester
Patrick Henighan  lodger 22 yrs  b Ireland
Patrick Conley  lodger 23 yrs  b Ireland

this would match a marriage in 1901 - Patrick Baggott and Catherine Kelly

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Re: Patrick Baggot/Bagot born Galway Ireland in England or USA?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 July 14 23:23 BST (UK) »
Possibly thanks Heywood it fits with DOB
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Patrick Baggot/Bagot born Galway Ireland in England or USA?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 August 14 01:10 BST (UK) »
1911
St Helens Lancs
reg dist 456, Prescot

Through the index I think I have found my Patrick.

Patick Bagot b 1879 Galway, Ireland (first name is mispelt)
Catherine b 1878  Chester

Marriages Mar 1901   
BAGGOTT    Patrick        Chester    8a   567    
KELLY    Catherine         Chester    8a   567   

Possible children with them, all born St Helens Lancs

EDIT

James Sargent Bagot 1901 Parents Patrick or Peter & Mary Ann, so possibly not mine.
Richard Cyril " 1903 As above
William Basil " 1907 "
George Vivian " 1910 "
Mary " 1910 ** dau of Patrick & Catherine

Births Dec 1909  Baggot  Mary   Prescot  8b   793

Married 10yrs 3 children died, 2 living. One child alive missing from family 1911, born poss between 1901 -1910. Maybe with Kelly family poss Chester area, or extended Bagot family in St Helens, Lancs

Thanks if you can help, have no access at mo.

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Patrick Baggot/Bagot born Galway Ireland in St Helens Lancs
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 August 14 02:16 BST (UK) »
There is a member tree on A* under 'Galway Bagots'  He has Patrick 1879 with father Thomas, wife Catherine Kelly.

Also has possibly my G Grandmother Bridget 1876. Also found another sibling John b 1874 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRSM-9XS Which seems to be on the same tree.

Could any please give me further details on the tree.. death of John, Patrick any children of above and sources etc cannot view all details.

Possible
Deaths Mar 1915   
Bagot Patrick age 35    Prescot    8b 1050

With thanks

Cas
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Patrick Baggot/Bagot born Galway Ireland in England or USA?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 August 14 09:14 BST (UK) »
Hello again,

There is a marriage 1899 Chorley  Patrick Bagot and Mary Ann Sargeant

1901 has them in St Helens with a son James S.

If you search http://www.1911census.co.uk. For Bagot and put James Sargent in the 'other members of household' box you get the family names. Patrick looks to be Peter in this census and this looks to be him https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XWYM-1RH. Born in Roscommon.

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Re: Patrick Baggot/Bagot born Galway Ireland in England or USA?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 August 14 09:24 BST (UK) »
Family Search has these baptisms

Bagot/Hurly

And these for Bagot/Hurley

The 1915 death looks very likely.
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