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Re: Parents not married?
« Reply #36 on: Monday 13 October 14 08:32 BST (UK) »
The christening says
Rees Thomas - Farmer
Mary Lewis - spinster
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Re: Parents not married?
« Reply #37 on: Monday 13 October 14 10:08 BST (UK) »
Saw that record when l was helping with the earlier thread back in July, Rosie. The problem is that he's down as a ship's carpenter on the marriage cert  :-\

It could be him and she might not have known his occupation or he changed his occupation or it's not the correct one or.........................



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Re: Parents not married?
« Reply #38 on: Monday 13 October 14 11:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gadget  ;D

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Re: Parents not married?
« Reply #39 on: Monday 13 October 14 12:59 BST (UK) »
A copy of Harriet's original baptism record is shown on FMY and the parents are shown with separate surnames.

Birth: 8 Dec. 1831
Baptised: 23 Dec. 1831
Father: Rees Thomas (Farmer) from St Ishmael (a community about 12 miles south of Carmarthen)
Mother: Mary Lewis (Spinster) from Lammas Street, Carmarthen

They are the only couple on the page that has both surnames all the others show one surname. I would suggest that they were not married also two different addresses adds to it.

Hope this helps?

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Griffith(s) - Anglesey: Pentraeth, Llanddona.

Hughes - Anglesey: Holyhead, Llangefni, Pentraeth.
Caernarvonshire: Gyffin, Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr.

Jones - Anglesey: Llangefni
Denbighshire: Betws yn Rhos, Llanfairtalhaiarn

Owen/Owens - Anglesey: Llanbadrig.
Caernarvonshire: Bangor, Penrhosgarnedd.
Denbighshire: Cerrigydrudion.

Roberts - Caernarvonshire: Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr, Llysfaen.

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Re: Parents not married?
« Reply #40 on: Monday 13 October 14 13:25 BST (UK) »
It's added something to the mix - will be on FindMyPast tonight I think!

I first started my tree over 10 years ago, got back to it earlier year after a few years off - and the three brick walls I had back then, of which this lady is one, are still brick walls!

I have so little to go on for her, a place of birth, an approximate date, a fathers name and occupation which may or may not be accurate (bit of a jump from farmer to ships carpenter!) - and that's about it.

Thanks everyone for all your help - will review tonight at home.
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Parents not married?
« Reply #41 on: Monday 13 October 14 14:45 BST (UK) »
I just noticed an error in my previous reply.....should be FindMyPast not FMY :)

So the baptism record was found on FindMyPast!

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Griffith(s) - Anglesey: Pentraeth, Llanddona.

Hughes - Anglesey: Holyhead, Llangefni, Pentraeth.
Caernarvonshire: Gyffin, Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr.

Jones - Anglesey: Llangefni
Denbighshire: Betws yn Rhos, Llanfairtalhaiarn

Owen/Owens - Anglesey: Llanbadrig.
Caernarvonshire: Bangor, Penrhosgarnedd.
Denbighshire: Cerrigydrudion.

Roberts - Caernarvonshire: Dwygyfylchi, Penmaenmawr, Llysfaen.

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Re: Parents not married?
« Reply #42 on: Monday 13 October 14 19:52 BST (UK) »
Well, there's a Mary Lewis living in Lammas Street in the 1841 census, with a birth year of 1816, but no Harriet with her  ???  Is this Mary the same one as in the baptism of Harriet in 1831?

And there's a Harriet Thomas b 1829 living with a David and Elizabeth Thomas at Lansaint Gwenmount, St Ishmael in the 1841 census - grandparents maybe?

I have also found baptism details for a Rees Thomas in Jul 1824 at Llandingat, Carmarthenshire - with parents David Thomas and Elizabeth - EDIT forget this, assuming he was baptised as an infant, he'd have been only 7 when Harriet was born!

My attempts at spelling the Welsh place names are probably awful, I do apologise.  Scribbled the first one down in a rush and then struggled to read it back.

any thoughts anyone? 


Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Parents not married?
« Reply #43 on: Monday 13 October 14 20:23 BST (UK) »
Gadget found the 1841 census entry on my previous thread, A*, bless 'em, have her name as Herbert!
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Parents not married?
« Reply #44 on: Monday 13 October 14 20:24 BST (UK) »
Gadget found the 1841 census entry on my previous thread, A*, bless 'em, have Harriet's name as Herbert!
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?