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Polish Marriage Entry. Help identifying name
« on: Friday 25 July 14 08:41 BST (UK) »
Hello

For those of you who are good at deciphering things, can you please give your best guess for the name of the father for Franz Ziaja (entry "4") in the attached (last but one column).

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Re: Polish Marriage Entry. Help identifying name
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 July 14 09:03 BST (UK) »
Hiya Roy - I am confused a little ...all I can see underneath the entry names are names of women - I presume wives or mothers ?? Carol / Theresa /Carolina /Rosalina
where exactly am I to look - do I need to expand the attached photo ??
ADDED...OK ...I am with it now
Jimis ??
Simis ??
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Polish Marriage Entry. Help identifying name
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 July 14 10:06 BST (UK) »
Hello Roy,

the father is a Gregory = Grzegorz
written in the nicer form: Little Gregory = Grzezyk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminutive#Polish

Regards
Rudolf
Goldschmidt; Gregory, Maude, Nancy Price, Welby (UK),
Goldschmidt > Goldsmith, Benetta, Bloom, Gillis, McDonough, Moses, Wheaton (Australia / NZ),
Spatz & Henderson (Greater London),
Herbert Spatz MC > H. Spence MC (Salisbury),
Spatz > Spence, Nichols. Kidd (Bromley > Manchester South, India),
Spatz > Spaatz (Boyertown, PA - USA),
Engel & Joly (Philadelphia, PA - USA).
Kummerer (London, Chicago & Australia).

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Re: Polish Marriage Entry. Help identifying name
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 July 14 12:15 BST (UK) »
Sorry Roy,

I have been in the wrong line.

I will sent the entry to my Polish nutcracker!

Rudolf
Goldschmidt; Gregory, Maude, Nancy Price, Welby (UK),
Goldschmidt > Goldsmith, Benetta, Bloom, Gillis, McDonough, Moses, Wheaton (Australia / NZ),
Spatz & Henderson (Greater London),
Herbert Spatz MC > H. Spence MC (Salisbury),
Spatz > Spence, Nichols. Kidd (Bromley > Manchester South, India),
Spatz > Spaatz (Boyertown, PA - USA),
Engel & Joly (Philadelphia, PA - USA).
Kummerer (London, Chicago & Australia).

WW1 - Cousins Killed in Action in the Australian, English, French & German Armies

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Re: Polish Marriage Entry. Help identifying name
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 July 14 14:27 BST (UK) »
Transcription by Małgosia in Poland:

Simon (?) Anton

Regards
Rudolf

What is the area or region the entry was made?
Goldschmidt; Gregory, Maude, Nancy Price, Welby (UK),
Goldschmidt > Goldsmith, Benetta, Bloom, Gillis, McDonough, Moses, Wheaton (Australia / NZ),
Spatz & Henderson (Greater London),
Herbert Spatz MC > H. Spence MC (Salisbury),
Spatz > Spence, Nichols. Kidd (Bromley > Manchester South, India),
Spatz > Spaatz (Boyertown, PA - USA),
Engel & Joly (Philadelphia, PA - USA).
Kummerer (London, Chicago & Australia).

WW1 - Cousins Killed in Action in the Australian, English, French & German Armies

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Re: Polish Marriage Entry. Help identifying name
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 July 14 23:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies. Simon/Anton seems a reasonable interpretation. Shame it wasn't Gregory as this would have fitted in nicely with a baptism I found for a Franz Ziaja with father Gregory in Tworog in1834. Can't find one for Franz Ziaja with father Simon or Anton 1834-1836

The marriage is in Tworog, which at the time was part of Prussia but now comes under Katowice.

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Re: Polish Marriage Entry. Help identifying name
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 July 14 08:24 BST (UK) »
Hello

Not convinced Simon Anton is correct.  Looking again it looks like Sing's Centros, which doesn't make sense either. Any other ideas? As the area was part of Prussia at the time the writing is in old German. Could this therefore be some sort of written/text entry rather than a name?

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Re: Polish Marriage Entry. Help identifying name
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 October 14 18:14 GMT (UK) »
This is not a Polish, a form of Kurrent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurrent
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