Author Topic: Clara Jane Harris (1869-1940) - James Aspley (1872-1948) - Cle Jane Clive  (Read 6340 times)

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Re: Clara Jane Harris (1869-1940) - James Aspley (1872-1948) - Cle Jane Clive
« Reply #9 on: Friday 25 July 14 17:09 BST (UK) »
I think so, I have James Grandfather as Emanuel Aspley (1822-1894), he had loads of kids but I did not find an Emanuel, I am sure there is one...

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Re: Clara Jane Harris (1869-1940) - James Aspley (1872-1948) - Cle Jane Clive
« Reply #10 on: Friday 25 July 14 17:10 BST (UK) »


Looking at later kids, eg Ethel J Aspley (1913-1995) the maiden name Clive appears.

One of these later children , from the index, with mothers maiden name Clive, is a George P Aspley, bn and died both in 1916.
As your Clara would be 48 by then, it is more likely that these "Clive" children are not from the James/Clara couple. (not impossible, I know......)
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Re: Clara Jane Harris (1869-1940) - James Aspley (1872-1948) - Cle Jane Clive
« Reply #11 on: Friday 25 July 14 17:11 BST (UK) »
I agree with lizdb about looking at the original image, rather than the transcription.  However, in this case it's not a lot of help - not sure how literate John was  :-\  However, appears to have been married 18 years, 9 children, 5 of whom are still alive.

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Re: Clara Jane Harris (1869-1940) - James Aspley (1872-1948) - Cle Jane Clive
« Reply #12 on: Friday 25 July 14 17:17 BST (UK) »
It is hard to say about the fertiility up to late 40s, she seems to have had a kid every couple of years up till the last, he died pretty quick perhaps due to them knocking on a bit by then.

The clive maiden name appeared on all after 1911.

Maybe her mum remarried?


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Re: Clara Jane Harris (1869-1940) - James Aspley (1872-1948) - Cle Jane Clive
« Reply #13 on: Friday 25 July 14 17:19 BST (UK) »
She'd be even older by 1916! I think we can rule her out!
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Re: Clara Jane Harris (1869-1940) - James Aspley (1872-1948) - Cle Jane Clive
« Reply #14 on: Friday 25 July 14 17:23 BST (UK) »
I think that 'Esther' Clive could be a transcription error by the GRO. 
There is a Keziah Clive who would fit the bill in 1891 RG12 /2269 f55 p   22
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Re: Clara Jane Harris (1869-1940) - James Aspley (1872-1948) - Cle Jane Clive
« Reply #15 on: Friday 25 July 14 17:31 BST (UK) »
Perhaps back to first principals.

I am interested in the second Ethel J Aspley, her dad seems to be James Aspley, who married a Clara Jane something, Ethel J (2) has Clive as her mothers maiden surname on birth record.

I cannot find a Clara Jane Clive, nor a likely marriage to James, but a James Aspley marries a Clara Jane Harris.

I must be missing somethign obvious, or Clara keeps getting her mums name wrong :)

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Re: Clara Jane Harris (1869-1940) - James Aspley (1872-1948) - Cle Jane Clive
« Reply #16 on: Friday 25 July 14 17:38 BST (UK) »
Do you have Ethel J (2nd's) birth certificate or are you just relying on the GRO index.

You say her dad 'seems' to be James - what does her marriage certificate say
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Re: Clara Jane Harris (1869-1940) - James Aspley (1872-1948) - Cle Jane Clive
« Reply #17 on: Friday 25 July 14 18:23 BST (UK) »
Agree 100% - if it is the second Ethel J bn 1913  you are interested in, then first step is to get her birth cert. Then there will be no danger of following the wrong line back.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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