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Re: advice please Elizabeth Jane Mabon 1879-82
« Reply #54 on: Friday 05 September 14 16:23 BST (UK) »
Hard to say if James' age of 50 in 1891 was accurate - often servants ages weren't.

rootsireland has 5 James Cains baptised 1839 - 1841 - exact match on surname:
Church Baptism   Cain   James   1840   Co. Dublin   
Church Baptism   Cain   James   1840   Co. Mayo   
Church Baptism   Cain   James   1839   Co. Galway   
Church Baptism   Cain   James   1839   Co. Waterford   
Church Baptism   Cain   James   1841   Co. Laois   
but 35 with soundex [eg Kane]

The 1876 James Cain/Jane Mabon marriage certificate will give James' father's name of course. Individual county baptism records on rootsireland could then be searched with father's name.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: advice please Elizabeth Jane Mabon 1879-82
« Reply #55 on: Friday 05 September 14 22:08 BST (UK) »
Yes Josie I think the next step is sending off for Jane and James marriage certificate. I wonder why Elizabeth Jane didn`t put James Cain as her father when she married?

Susan

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Re: advice please Elizabeth Jane Mabon 1879-82
« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 01 October 14 14:28 BST (UK) »
Hi I`ve just received the marriage certificate for Jane Mabon and James Cain. Unfortunately I dont have access to the scanner so will post it on later when I`m at work.

The marriage took place 4th July 1876 in the Register office Morpeth
name -James Cain aged 28 years
condition as to marriage - Bachelor
rank or proffesion - Attendant
residence at time of marrriage - County Asylum Morpeth
Fathers name - Thomas Cain (deceased)
rank or profession of father - Engine fitter

name - Jane Mabon
condition as to marriage - Spinster
rank or proffesion - Attendant
residence at time of marriage - County Asylum Morpeth
Fathers name = William Mabon
rank or proffesion of father - Stone quarrier

Not sure if this is much help for James Cain  :-\

Susan

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Re: advice please Elizabeth Jane Mabon 1879-82
« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 01 October 14 14:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks for posting the details.

So James born ca 1848; although ages could be wrong on the census - probably not the 50 yr old in the 1891 census. I looked on the England & IoM censuses for James son of Thomas engine fitter,  but all the Thomases with sons James of the right age seemed to ag labs or farmers.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON


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Re: advice please Elizabeth Jane Mabon 1879-82
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 01 October 14 23:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Josey

James Cain on the 1891 census as a musician seemed to fit in just nicely but this has thrown a spanner in the works. On the 1891 census it stated he was born blind so I cant imagine he`d have been an attendant in an asylum. Coincidently my mother at the age of 21 was a nurse in the same asylum as her g grandparents.

I`m also trying to find a marriage for Janes parents William and Elizabeth but having no luck so far so I think I`m probably going to have to get Jane or one of her siblings birth certificates for Elizabeth`s maiden name.

I cant thank you enough for all your help. I`ve had some brilliant feed back and its always spot on

Susan