Albert Gumma b1883 in the USA

[NormanE]

I have a 1911 census record for Albert Gumma saying he was born in the USA. It seems likely that with a good Cornish name he has returned to his roots.

Please can I ask if anyone can link me to his parents and ancestors?
Norman E

[KGarrad]

Perhaps buying the marriage certificate would help?
Father's names will be on there!

December qtr 1909
Redruth district    vil 5c, page 399

Gumma, Albert
Northey, Mildred


And, maybe a brother?

December qtr 1909
Redruth district     vol 5c, page 457

Gumma, Leroy
Jory, Hetty


FreeBMD is showing births to both couples?
3 births to each couple after September qtr 1911, when Mother's maiden names were added.

[KGarrad]

1901 census: Class: RG13; Piece: 2238; Folio: 104; Page: 7
Gwennap, Cornwall

Pengilly, John  Head  M  43  Farmer  b Liskeard
Pengilly, Emily  Wife  F  44  b Gwennap
Gummow, Albert  Step-son  M  19  Tin Miner  b USA, British subject
Gummow, Leroy  Step-son  M  15  b USA British subject
Pengilly, Albert Charles  Son  M  2  b Gwennap

[NormanE]

Many thanks for the replies to my query.
Family Lore, I understand has the USA connection for Albert Gumma 1883.
The 1901 Census which lists him as a Gummow (Another common Cornish name) could be an Enumerator/literacy factor. Albert married as a Gumma in 1909 and his wife's maiden name is known in the family.
I thought it might be possible to trace Alberts father through Emily Pengilly mentioned in the 1901.
Can't place her or husband John Pengilly 1858 at all.
I haven't any access to USA records at this stage.
Still trying to avoid buying Alberts marriage documents!!!
Regards
Norman Elkins

[Erato]

In the 1880 census, there are Gummows recorded in various states, some of them in places that would attract miners [e.g., Pennsylvania and California].  You can look at many US records for free at FamilySearch:

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list/?page=1&region=UNITED_STATES

[KGarrad]

Albert Charles's birth:

September qtr 1897
Liskeard district     vol 5c, page 46

Pengelly, Albert Charles

So a marriage should have taken place sometime before that?

[*Sandra*]

The 1880 US Census Caribou, Boulder, Colorado shows John and Emily with William and Albert

John Gummo  27 Born England. Miner.
Emily Gummo  27 Born England.
Wm. J. Gummo  6 Born Wales.
Albert Gummo  1m Born Colorado.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MFD6-5B3

Family also show on the 1885 Colorado Census. Gilpin Colorado.


Sandra

[rosie17]

Birth record for his brother Leroy is 24th March 1886 Colorado  according to Us World War draft Records ...
Probate records for Leroy Gumma died 6/7/1965 in Cornwall mentions Albert Charles Pengilly retired local government officer and Phyliss Pearl Lewis married woman

[*Sandra*]

Albert Charles PENGILLY 24/11/1974 76 his wife Minnie 4/1/1979 84

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CORNISH/1998-10/0907880538

Sandra