Bagot / Baggot family - St Helens

[Cas (stallc)]

Could some kind peep look up the POB for Baggott on these census please, would like to know if it was Galway Ireland for James and poss family, or St Helens

1891 Living at 19a Canal Bank E. Windle, St. Helens
James Baggott 39
Margaret Baggott 38
Patrick Baggott 17
Jane Baggott 13
Bridget Baggott 10
 RG12; Piece: 3020; Folio 116; Page 3

1901 Census Living at 25 Traverso? Street St Helens.
James Baggot 52
Margaret Baggot 51
Jane Baggot 21
Bridget Baggot 19
RG13; Piece: 3524; Folio: 148; Page: 43

With thanks

Cas

[miriamkinga]

1891 shows Ireland as POB for everyone except Jane who's St Helens 

[Cas (stallc)]

Thank you for reply, could you check the 1901 to see if Galway is included in POB

With thanks

[t_creaney]

Agree with above & similar for 1901.

The daughter Bridget is shown as born in Ireland 1881/2, looking at the Irish Civil Registration Birth Index there are 5 entries for Bridget Baggot/t between 1880 & 1883 in various parts of Ireland. These can be accessed on Familysearch for free. The individual certificates can be purchased and will show the parents names & location at the time of the birth.

tc

[heywood]

Hi Cal,

I think that son Patrick is the Peter from Roscommon that we had before.

Heywood

[Cas (stallc)]

Agree with above & similar for 1901.

The daughter Bridget is shown as born in Ireland 1881/2, looking at the Irish Civil Registration Birth Index there are 5 entries for Bridget Baggot/t between 1880 & 1883 in various parts of Ireland. These can be accessed on Familysearch for free. The individual certificates can be purchased and will show the parents names & location at the time of the birth.

tc

Thank you for your reply, I originally thought this was my G grandmother Bridget family, but is not, think James was brother to her father, The census was from my notes, many years ago, but did not include POB, am possibly trying to establish a brother connection.

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

Hi Cal,

I think that son Patrick is the Peter from Roscommon that we had before.

Heywood

That is so interesting Heywood ty!

[heywood]

There is a tree with some confusing information but this is included there for that chap

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGCJ-L31

You probably have your family on a thread elsewhere, if so can you give a link. If not do you have details please? It may help to have a look over it.

[t_creaney]

Now looking at son Patrick, 1891 shows his date of birth as 1874 & born Ireland.

Searching for Patrick’s birth there are 5 possibilities +/- 2 years.

There is only one of these which matches in location with Bridget:

Patrick Baggott 1873 Limerick, Vol 10 Page 499.
Bridget Baggott 1882 Limerick Vol 5 Page 406

These would be a good starting point for further research / certificates.

This could help answer the question of the origins of the family in St Helens 1891/1901, I am not familiar with previous posts about this family so don't know what has been said before.

tc