Knighton from Liverpool born 1902

[jimrob]

May I ask where I might find the reference to Patrick White as the father of Mary -- who apparently married  a William Carpenter in 1886 according your reply # 3

[jimrob]

The 1845 Charlotte Knighton, West Derby birth that I mentioned above, was listed in a Register of Births District 185, Vol XX, Page 1006 -- I still believe it is possible that that family of Knightons, being in West Derby, may have been known to or relatives of the Nottingham Knightons such that it would be natural for the Nottingham Knightons to have gravitated to them while looking for a place to live and employment in the merchant navy. Plausible I think.

[heywood]

May I ask where I might find the reference to Patrick White as the father of Mary -- who apparently married  a William Carpenter in 1886 according your reply # 3

It is listed in Liverpool Catholic Marriages collection- Ancestry or Liverpool History  Projects http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk. I think you can email and a copy is £3. However, it will not be the same as a civil record and does not have his occupation. I have previously given you the church marriage details.

[jimrob]

" . . .It is listed in Liverpool Catholic Marriages collection- Ancestry or Liverpool History  Projects http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk. . . "

Thanks for the above, I did check that site and entry for Mary Ellen and did see the entry for Mary Ellen White and William Carpenter in 1886 -- but I did not see any reference to a father's name, Patrick or otherwise . . . still a puzzle for me I'm afraid. But thanks anyway.

[heywood]

You would have to pay to get the details.
The instructions are there.


I transcribed them earlier and thought I had posted them but will give them again. This is the Latin version. 

2nd August 1886 St Alphonsus

Gulielmum Carpenter 141 Arlington Street filium Joannis Carpenter

Marian Helenam White 143 Arlington Street filiam Patritii White

Presentibus testibus
  Arthuro Whittingham     2 Anglezark Street
Maria Whelan 12Silvester Street

[jimrob]

Thank you so much for that Heywood -- at last I have it in front of me! Will addd to my file Thanks agaun.

[heywood]

It's a pleasure 

[jimrob]

If I have the right Nottingham family for James he is listed as James W in 1881 - aged 11 yrs.

There is a death of James W Knighton 57 yrs in Sept 1927, Nottingham.

Looking back at this earlier post #68, the age looks right for James with a W -- but I also found a plain just James born 1870, wife Eliza, and who had children with similar names of those connected with James Albert -- William, Arthur, Ann, James S, John A. -- he was an Elastic Bandage Maker and lived for perhaps 20 years at Rye Hill cottages, St. Mary, Nottingham if I recall correctly --

[jimrob]

I guess it would be good to know whether James Albert's father had a second name -- also, for some reason, I was under the impression that JA's father was also in the merchant navy -- if that were so, the same source as that for James Albert, where we found his work records and photo, might also have his father's too.I will try to check that out.