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Offline Hilary F

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"Scholar" - was this an easy option or always true?
« on: Friday 05 September 14 13:14 BST (UK) »
I've found an entry on an 1861 census that lists my then 4 year old gt gt grandfather as a scholar.  Which I find surprising given his age, his family's poverty, and the fact that school was not a legal requirement until 1870.  I do know there were some charity schools around though.  If he was listed as a scholar, does that mean he definitely went to school, or was it just a general entry?

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Re: "Scholar" - was this an easy option or always true?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 05 September 14 13:23 BST (UK) »
I think it is an easy answer to the question on the form, there seem to be lots of different descriptions used for young children,
but, depending on the location and how enthusiastic the curate was many churches worked hard to give basic schooling to their children at that time.

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Re: "Scholar" - was this an easy option or always true?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 September 14 13:28 BST (UK) »
I would say the description should be taken on face value. There were many infant schools well before the act. In Scotland the Education Act came in in 1633. Charitable, Industrial etc.

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Re: "Scholar" - was this an easy option or always true?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 September 14 13:32 BST (UK) »
Yes, as deebel say's there where several forms of schooling available, even in England which sdly lacked behind Scotland in education. Early there were Sunday schools and various charitable schools,  then "ragged schools". I think that by half way through the 1800's most children had some form of schooling.

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 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
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 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
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 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
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Re: "Scholar" - was this an easy option or always true?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 September 14 13:34 BST (UK) »
Also this might explain better than me; http://www.educationengland.org.uk/history/chapter02.html#01
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  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
PINEGAR-COLLIER-HUGHES-JEFFERIES-HUNT-MOSS-FRY

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Re: "Scholar" - was this an easy option or always true?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 05 September 14 13:40 BST (UK) »
The most common designation for children in the census was that of "scholar", the returns should, however, be used with caution. The definition of the term "scholar" in the census instructions was vague, and became vaguer with time. There was a tendency to use scholar as a blanket term for children whether they were at school or working, as well as the not uncommon cases of "scholars" aged under five years.
In 1851 parents were to record their children as "scholars" if they were above five years of age and were" daily attending school, or receiving regular tuition under a master or governess at home." In 1861, however, regular tuition at home did not require the presence of a master or governess. In 1871 and 1881 children only needed to be "attending a school, or receiving regular instruction at home" to be returned as scholars. In 1891 there was no instruction on the subject. In 1901, however the instruction was that children attending school "and also engaged in a trade or industry should be described as following the particular trade or industry." With the advent of compulsory education after the 1876 Elementary Education Act there may also have been a temptation for some working-class householders to use the term to conceal the work of their children.

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Re: "Scholar" - was this an easy option or always true?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 05 September 14 13:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks :)  I know there was a St Margaret's School for Boys there at the time (this is in Leicester) and suspect he probably went there.  I shall have to look up the logs at the record office.

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 05 September 14 14:06 BST (UK) »
There is a list of schools in Leicester on page 50 of the 1862 Slater's Directory of Leicestershire, , at  http://www.rootschat.com/links/019wg/

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Re: "Scholar" - was this an easy option or always true?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 05 September 14 14:28 BST (UK) »
Stan, you are a star :)  Thank you.