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Adam Lodge passengers to Australia 1837
« on: Monday 08 September 14 04:58 BST (UK) »
I have been researching this ship for about thirty years and am trying to find the names of the un named children and single girls on this ship There were 195 children on board and only sixteen were named. Since 1983, I have reduced the number of unknowns from 179 to 69. The following people i have not been able to identify the children:- John and Mary McCulloch/McCullogh 3 males and 3 females ( parents from Tyrone, he a stonecutter); Mathew and Alice McIlroy 3 females (parents from Tyrone, he a cooper); John and Mary Kelly 2 males and 2 females he a farmer from Tyrone); John and Rose Ingram from Fermanagh he a blacksmith, 3 females;
As this is getting a bitlengthy, I will not add the other parents and missing children's names but I will post the full list of children's names found later.
In addition, I am missing nine single girls'names out of twenty on board.
Alick Osborne, surgeon on the ship sent a full list to the Colonial Emigration Office prior to leaving for Australia. The records were copied for the AJCP but it appears that this list is missing from the records copied (why I don't know)
The list that I have i found in the quarantine papers in 1985 and this list is the one that all current information has been gleaned from by archivists here in Australia. This post is enough! More later.

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Re: Adam Lodge passengers to Australia 1837
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 September 14 07:22 BST (UK) »

"Mathew and Alice McIlroy 3 females (parents from Tyrone, he a cooper)"

BDM deaths
14335 / 1894  MCELROY  Charles parents Matthew / Alice              Waverley
764 / 1861      MCELROY Sarah   parents Matthew / Alicia               Sydney
3168 / 1878    MCELROY  Matthew  age 78yrs        died Paddington
1376 / 1873    MCELROY Alice        age 74yrs        died Sydney

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Re: Adam Lodge passengers to Australia 1837
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 September 14 07:55 BST (UK) »
NSW birth/baptisms that i could find, might be more

1555/1841     MCILROY   JOHN     father MATTHEW   mother ALICIA      
2489/1843  MCILROY   CHARLES   father MATHEW   mother ALICIA

The Australian (Sydney, NSW : 1824 - 1848)
Wednesday 21 September 1842
McIlroy Matthew, house, Surry-Hills 

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/37116655?


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Re: Adam Lodge passengers to Australia 1837
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 September 14 04:17 BST (UK) »
More on the Adam Lodge passengers:-
I am going to list more of the unknown children and passengers:-
1) David and Margaret Cameron from Belfast, he a carpenter and died September, 1837. She remarried George Murray 1831. An unknown female Protestant religion.
2) Henry (b1813) and Julia (b1813)  Callen from Donegal, he a stone mason; One male and one female unknown, Children born here ? George 1844. Mary Anne 1852 
3) Charles (b1807) and Rose Meehan, he a Stone Mason. A female unknown, Catholic religion
Wollongong area? Protestant religion
4) James (b1813) and Mary Kildea  from Donegal , he a blacksmith. Female born on ship 17th May 1837. Catholic religion
That is enough for this time


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Re: Adam Lodge passengers to Australia 1837
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 November 15 05:53 GMT (UK) »
Mathew & Alice McIlroy are likely to be the Parents of Charles McElroy Died Waverly in 1894 aged 51.
Charles McElroy... & Emily Elizabeth (nee Gorman) known as Elizabeth lived at 20 Belmore st Sydney. Married in 1865.
They had 6 or more children....
Florence b,1866
Michael A b.1869
Margaret Alice b.1870
Emily E (Nellie) b..unregistered (was 3rd eldest daughter)
Charles Augustus b. 1877- died 1939 Waverly
 Edith Grace b.1879

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Re: Adam Lodge passengers to Australia 1837
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 25 November 15 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for reply on 23rd November. At present, the story on McElroy is as follows:
Matthew, a cooper, born 1800 and his wife Alice both Catholics from County Tyrone arrived on the Adam Lodge with their three female children in Sydney in 1837. The children on arrival were most likely Sarah, born 1833 died Cumberland 1861 aged 28 yrs ; and maybe Margaret who married John Crenaga in 1863 and either June, Bridget or Mary who had marriages to Henry Buck 1864; John Gillies in Sydney 1875 and William Thompson at Armidale in 1866 respectively .
Matthew McIlroy had a house in Surry Hills in 1842
Alice, the mother died 1873 at age 74  in Sydney; Matthew the father died 1878 in Paddington in 1878.
Two sons, John baptised 1841 and Charles born 1843 were born in Sydney and on the voyage out, John, a son, died  on July 13th aged 1 year and 6 months   
 

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Re: Adam Lodge passengers to Australia 1837
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 25 November 15 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Thank you,
You have helped me remove a great Heritage splinter !
If I ever find you I'll buy you a beer !!
Great stuff, not sure where you get all this but I appreciate it...

For accuracy I have Matthew & Alice (McILroy also McAlroy) (also Mathew & Alicia)
who boarded "Adam Lodge" with three Children (all Girls?? say you ..)
Unfortunately on the day they arrived in Sydney Harbour Matthew McIlroy aged 14 months died.
as per Alik Osbourne's  Log 1837.
"July 13: "Fine weather at 10am pilot on board. Died this morning Matthew Mcilroy (sic)
aged 14 mos. Buried at 11am. At 2pm died Mrs Egan of pleurisy. Anchored in Neutral bay"'.

Maybe little Matthew was no listed ? maybe only two girls ?

MY GGF X 4 Matthew & John  his older brother were Registered Births in NSW.
My gut feel is they  appeared to settle as  a "Sydney town family"

If you could share any info links on the girls I'd appreciate it..

Regards
John McElroy



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Re: Adam Lodge passengers to Australia 1837
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 25 November 15 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

I think the surname has been mish-mashed even further .... McAHOY....

I suspect they are indexed as MCAHOY at the online index of Miscellaneous Immigrants at NSW State Records.

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-to-immigration-and-shipping-records/index-to-miscellaneous-assisted-immigrants

From other resources :

I think that a list of Mechanics and etc on board the vessel “Adam Lodge” should be available at the State Records Office of NSW, with their references as Volume 4/2378 and No. 37/6632

37-432 Matthew McALROY per Adam Lodge 13 July 1837 to Sydney, a passenger, a Cooper, Catholic, Read and Write, aged 30, native place: Tyrone
37-433 -Alice McALROY passenger, per Adam Lodge 13 July 1837
37-434 Child McALROY, passenger, per Adam Lodge 13 July 1837
37-435 Child McALROY, passenger, per Adam Lodge 13 July 1837
37-436 Child McALROY, passenger, per Adam Lodge 13 July 1837

Cheers,  JM


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Re: Adam Lodge passengers to Australia 1837
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 25 November 15 23:30 GMT (UK) »
 Sorry Error to Confuse you.....

"MY GGF X 4 Matthew & John  his older brother were Registered Births in NSW." ???

I meant to type

My GGF X 3 CHARLES & John  his older brother were Registered Births in NSW.

Regards

John