Author Topic: Where might the LEOFFELER name have originated from in Germany?  (Read 2617 times)

Offline Keith Sherwood

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,382
  • The grass covers and the rain effaces. Victor Hugo
    • View Profile
Where might the LEOFFELER name have originated from in Germany?
« on: Monday 08 September 14 07:00 BST (UK) »
Hi again, Everyone,
I think this is the first time I have ever posted on this board, but would anyone be able to tell me anything about the surname LEOFFELER, how common a name in Germany it might be, or whether it indicates in any way a location there?
I'm looking at the individual Albert LEOFFELER, who first seems to appear in the 1871 Census in Shoreditch, aged 40, a boot maker born in Germany, with his wife Sarah Ann aged 30, born in Bristol, and their young family.
He subsequently appears in 1881 and 1891, looking fairly established (employing 8 men) in Bishopsgate, London.
Was this a common occurrence for a German man to come to London, perhaps in the 1860's, to use his skills there?
Any help or pointers would be much appreciated!
Many thanks, Keith

Offline garstonite

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,885
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Where might the LEOFFELER name have originated from in Germany?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 September 14 07:52 BST (UK) »
I would look at the Transcription of his name
www.freebmd.org.uk
leoffeler
all types
daughter Clara Leoffeler is the first record born in dec qtr 1865 - Newington   1d 253
but there is no marriage under that name to Sarah Ann ?
also 2 children deaths in dec 1876
Lilian Leoffeler aged 5
Blanche Leoffeler aged 4 ...........no birth for them though - so are they registered as a similar spelling to Leoffeler
Sarah Ann dies in 1907 - her death is registered as Leoffeler
No death for Albert Leoffeler ....I can only presume there is another spelling for Leoffeler...do you know the Maiden name of Sarah Ann ? 
ADDED
familysearch has the following spellings
Leoffeler
Leoffler
Loafler
Loffler
Loeffler
just found the marriage
Albert Loeffler to Sarah Ann Sanders - 1864 Newington , London
so - just found this familytree for Loeffler from 1640 in a village named Ruebgarten,Wuerttemberg ,Germany ....
http://gw.geneanet.org/manuelabassler?lang=en&v=LOEFFLER&m=N
the same site for Leoffeler has NO RESULTS ...there are over 1,200 familytrees for Loeffler
so the earliest I can find and what I think is the correct spelling originally is
1640- Ruebgarten, Germany - Loeffler
https://www.facebook.com/pages/R%C3%BCbgarten-Baden-Wurttemberg-Germany/110116699014258   I wonder if there are any Loeffler in Rubgarten who may be able to help ??
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

Offline Keith Sherwood

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,382
  • The grass covers and the rain effaces. Victor Hugo
    • View Profile
Re: Where might the LEOFFELER name have originated from in Germany?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 September 14 10:55 BST (UK) »
Morning, Garstonite,
Wow! Thanks so much for all that work and thought you have given to my query earlier.  I'm simply acknowledging your response at this moment, but will come back to you when I've had a little more time to digest all this lovely information you have put in front of me.
I do have another small query, in that the LEOFFELER (sic) family appears in the 1871 Census in Shoreditch (spread on two pages) RG10 461.  If you have access to the Census could you have a look at the entries for Albert's 21 year old sister Marijan(?)LEOFFELER, a mantle maker, her birthplace looks like "Loun ain Pifnian"; so does the entry over the page for Horig (?) LEOFFELER, a 17-year old lodger.  Obviously family members, but presumably born somewhere in Germany.  My attempt at deciphering both their forenames and place of birth are woeful in the extreme, but you with you knowledge of Germany might be able to come up with an answer.
Anyway, many, many thanks with all that you have unearthed for me already!
Keith

Offline Peonie

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 761
  • I wish ................!!
    • View Profile
Re: Where might the LEOFFELER name have originated from in Germany?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 September 14 11:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Keith,

you can look at this site to check where the different spellings are more common:

http://www.verwandt.de/karten/

Regards Peonie


Offline Keith Sherwood

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,382
  • The grass covers and the rain effaces. Victor Hugo
    • View Profile
Re: Where might the LEOFFELER name have originated from in Germany?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 September 14 11:54 BST (UK) »
Peonie,
Thanks so much for taking the time to look at this thread, and for providing that very interesting link.  Things are getting exciting…!
regards, Keith

Offline decor

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 760
    • View Profile
Re: Where might the LEOFFELER name have originated from in Germany?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 September 14 23:11 BST (UK) »
The surname Löffler/Loeffler is pretty common in Germany!
This information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Keith Sherwood

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,382
  • The grass covers and the rain effaces. Victor Hugo
    • View Profile
Re: Where might the LEOFFELER name have originated from in Germany?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 September 14 00:34 BST (UK) »
Decor,
Thanks very much for that extra information, and the variation with the umlaut (?) !
regards, Keith

Offline carinthiangirl

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 398
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Where might the LEOFFELER name have originated from in Germany?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 September 14 15:39 BST (UK) »
Leofeller and this curios variants will be really misspelled from Löffler or Löffeler,which can be written also Loeffler/ Loeffeler (ö = oe), as ö is not usual everywhere. The other variants are not used in german. Most english speakers do not know the oe variant, so they misrepresent it. This happens also with ie. ;) They make most time ei then, example Wiener Schnitzel is written then Weiner Schnitzel by them. :)

phonebook - type in left side Loeffler or Loeffeler: www.dastelefonbuch.de
Löffler is a very usual name (more then 8000), Löffeler not so many (only 17 results).
So you must really find YOURS step-by-step. There are to many out there….
Would be similar like searching for Smith in England…..

Löffel = spoon
Map for Löffler in Germany: http://nachname.gofeminin.de/w/nachnamen/nachname-loeffler.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Löffler
Löffler is also name of a heron (his beak looks like a spoon):
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Löffler
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_spoonbill

Can you post a picture of the 1871 Census with "Loun ain Pifnian"? Because it will be also a real misspelling. It says nothing in german in this case. Is it handwritten?

Online ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,128
    • View Profile
Re: Where might the LEOFFELER name have originated from in Germany?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 September 14 15:55 BST (UK) »
Carinthiangirl,

See reply#63 on this other thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=699046.27 where  Bonn has also cropped up as a birthplace
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk