James Hextall Sneinton help with his birth please

[Annie65115]

However I found this in the Nottingham Evening Post, Mon 24 Feb 1919
"Mrs James Hextall and her daughters, and Mr and Mrs Newbold and family, wish to thank all kind friends for their kind expressions of sympathy and floral tributes in their sad bereavement".

Further confusion.

This date would fit with the death of James Hextall b 1877; and although the dob suggested in 1911 is out, the Newbold name would fit with that couple.

However, freeBMD has no births to this couple. So if "Mrs James Hextall" was actually Annie nee Newbold, who were the daughters???

Martha Hextall (mum) died in 1908 so it wouldn't be her.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

There's also a marriage for a James Hextall in Nottingham in 1895 - spouse either Margaret O'Donnell or Mary Ann Henson

[Annie65115]

Mary Ann Hextall d 1896 q1 age 19 (and Mary Jane Hextall age 0 died q2 1896). I wonder if this was a first marriage for James, with Mary Ann dying a few months later in childbirth and the baby shortly afterwards.

[Annie65115]

The Notts FHS CDs don't feature this marriage or burial, and don't have anything into the 1900s. (They do have the marriage of James Hextall and Martha Burton in Radford in 1855 but that's not a lot of use!)

dob 19.2.1896, baptised the following day at Notts St Barnabas RC:  Mary Jane Hextall, parents James and Mary Ann nee Henton, address 2 Millstone Place.

[sandiep]

looks like this Mary Jane died same year
but it does show which person the James in 1895 married.....I notice its a roman catholic church

[larkspur]

baptism Nottingham St Ann
11-4-1880 Fanny dau of James & Martha Hextall abode 2 St George St fathers occupation ERRAND GIRL  !!

Baptism Sneinton St Luke
27-6-1872 Sarah Ann dau of James and Martha HEXTALE abode George St father a Lace Carrier.

[sandiep]

Mary Ann Hextall d 1896 q1 age 19 (and Mary Jane Hextall age 0 died q2 1896). I wonder if this was a first marriage for James, with Mary Ann dying a few months later in childbirth and the baby shortly afterwards.

Just noticed this so if this is my James father he cant be a son of Mary Ann Henton ......but he gives a birth in 1901 and James doesn't appear to have married again if he is the James who married Annie Newbold who is Emma?

[Annie65115]

You've lost me a bit with your last post!

This is how I see the possible scenario:

James Hextall son of James and Martha Hextall b Sneinton 1877.
He marries Mary Ann Henton in 1895; she has a baby and sadly both she and the baby, mary Jane, die in 1896.
James is then alone and a widow until he marries Annie Newbold in 1909. He then dies in 1919.

So you can see that there were 13 years (1896-1909) when James was single, during which time, if my hypothesis is correct, he could have met Emma and they had a child together - James jnr, b Sneinton 1901. Because his parents weren't married, James jnr's birth was registered under his mother's surname (which we don't know). When his parents split up, his mother kept using the Hextall name rather than revert to her real name, and so did James.

I don't know how you could prove this.

[jaywit]

That death notice in 1919.


"Mrs James Hextall and her daughters, and Mr and Mrs Newbold and family, wish to thank all kind friends for their kind expressions of sympathy and floral tributes in their sad bereavement"

Mrs James Hextall and her daughters, so does that mean Martha Hextall ( James' mother) and his sisters?
Mr and Mrs Newbold and family, so presumably they were Annie's parents?

Why no mention of Annie?  That is unless James and Annie had daughters after 1911 then Mrs James Hextall would mean Annie.